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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#692I'm very scared by this. youtube-dl needs somewhat frequent updates as Google moves the youtube codebase around. I'm worried that the RIAA's next move, now that it's starting to get inconvenient to get youtube-dl, will be to make Youtube change in some way to make existing copies of youtube-dl no longer work. youtube-dl has been my primary way of getting videos since I learned about it. If the RIAA manages to kill it…
Do you have some sort of RMS-style setup? If so, I'm curious about your reasons for that and why mainstream browsers aren't an option for you
Compared to youtube-dl and an offline media player like mpv, youtube's web interface is absolute garbage for consuming content. The only thing it's half-good for is discovery because it shows thumbnails of the videos and links to related videos.
Useful things that I can't do on through youtube's web interface:
1 - archive videos (so many videos have been taken down and would be lost forever to me had I not had an offline archive of them)
2 - quickly play through a ton of videos on demand, offline, without waiting to load the video (and the ads) -- skimming through dozens of offline videos takes seconds, but I'd have to stare at my browser loading forever to accomplish the same thing through a web browser
3 - make use of many useful features of powerful media players like mpv... just yesterday I needed to invert the colors on a screencast because I was watching it at night and the video's white window background was blinding me.. I could do this instantly in mpv, but absolutely impossible on youtube
4 - remix the video or otherwise alter it to my needs using powerful offline video editors.. youtube's offerings here are again a sad joke in comparison (as are most web tools compared to offline tools)
5 - not have to sit through a single stinking ad
If youtube could have just offered simple download links for their videos this would not be a problem.
But, no, they need you to be glued to their website and bound hand and foot to their service for as many hours of the day as they can bleed out of you.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#693I'm very scared by this. youtube-dl needs somewhat frequent updates as Google moves the youtube codebase around. I'm worried that the RIAA's next move, now that it's starting to get inconvenient to get youtube-dl, will be to make Youtube change in some way to make existing copies of youtube-dl no longer work. youtube-dl has been my primary way of getting videos since I learned about it. If the RIAA manages to kill it…
Comments like this in here seem out of place. We're a community of hackers. Just read the source and figure out how it downloads the videos. Next time YT changes something it'd probably be some query string in the url. It's not rocket science to download stuff from video sites.
Not only do you have to figure out the URLs from the source, but you have to assemble all the parts.
Youtube's website changes all the time, too, so you'll have to constantly re-read the source and adapt your downloader to it (essentially what youtube-dl does).
It may not be rocket science, but it's not trivial either, and not every developer on HN is a web developer or has any interest (or time) to become one.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#694Most of the comments so far are ignoring the bigger picture: this isnt something new, its just the RIAA playing whack-a-mole with the DMCA hammer. Theyve been doing it for 20 years, and in those 20 years the most they have managed to accomplish is building a better, more resilient mole.
Napster was followed by bittorrent, bittorrent by popcorntime, and youtube-dl. in the past 20 years the industry has quietly capitulated and delivered some content users really want like streaming audio services, but in the grande cosmos of the DMCA-related war on piracy the industry itself continues to do more to smite its own face than it does to offer a more reasonable and accessible product to their audience.
There is nothing to keep me from writing something now that scrapes puseaudio for content triggered by mpv. the only real factor thats of concern is that this new backflip would be even harder for the RIAA to prosecute.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#695So, according to the RIAA's claim, it's
> (i) circumvent the technological protection measures used by authorized streaming services such as YouTube,
> and
> (ii) reproduce and distribute music videos and sound recordings owned by our member companies without authorization for such use.
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-2...
(i) is strange claim as youtube-dl simply implements various streaming protocols public to anyone, most commonly used protocol is HLS which is just a simple list of URIs of small portion of video files in text file over HTTP/HTTPS. No technological protection whatsoever. (ii) can be easily avoided by simply removing or changing the example usage.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#696Here's what you can do: 1. Clone the repository. Make an insignificant change to the initial commit in order to change all commit hashes. Push to github as a new repository. 2. Create a password "protected" zip file (or smaller volumes) containing the repository. Use a password that's easily found in common wordlists. Commit it to another project and push to github. Microsoft GitHub may be centralized, but it's not o…
This isn't really much of a help. There is no danger of losing access to the archive; it's popular enough that's it's essentially impossible to wipe from the internet. The issue is that now there is no central place where developers can pool their efforts to keep the code working. And it does need constant updates to address changes in the websites it downloads from.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#697Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to add a data point, but back when I still was working for a video distribution startup, we offered our customers the ability to directly import their video inventory from YouTube. They were the owners of the videos, it was just a convenient (and very popular!) feature for them to let us handle this import. We used YouTube-dl for this, of course. No way we could have done this easily without it. We imported hund…
Right, but that's not the heart of the matter. It's one thing if a tool designed for legitimate archiving use results in incidental violation of copyright. It's another thing entirely, legally, if a tool is designed for violating copyright. In such case, it doesn't matter if there are also legitimate fair use uses of the tool. And that's what the README showed: that youtube-dl was built primarily to violate copyright…
why does that make it worse?
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#698I'm very scared by this. youtube-dl needs somewhat frequent updates as Google moves the youtube codebase around. I'm worried that the RIAA's next move, now that it's starting to get inconvenient to get youtube-dl, will be to make Youtube change in some way to make existing copies of youtube-dl no longer work. youtube-dl has been my primary way of getting videos since I learned about it. If the RIAA manages to kill it…
Do you have some sort of RMS-style setup? If so, I'm curious about your reasons for that and why mainstream browsers aren't an option for you
When I had high packet loss wireless internet, downloading videos was effectively the only way to watch them. Browsers don't buffer a whole video worth.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#699Earlier quoted context omitted.
To restore your ability to partake in culture, you can use JDownloader. It is universal and can download from almost any media site.
Can it download from Youtube over the command line?
No, it's a GUI tool. Afaik you can also run it as a daemon with a web interface.
Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#700Seems like a fresh mirror here https://gitea.eponym.info/Mirrors/youtube-dl to fork and start it over somewhere else. Gitea is a great project. Now we need someone to fork and publish it over Tor or something. Decentralized solution would be a next step. Diff between that mirror and the one from the web.archive.com looks good. I.e. no hidden/evil things inside. Looks safe to start over. ``` $ git log --oneline -3 48c…
I've created http://youtube-dl-sources.org/ with links to a static torrent and IPFS content.
It's not much but I would like the sources to be easily accessible.