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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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This is so much money with which we could actually solve problems in the world. maybe even stop wars which break out because of scarcity issues. maybe i am getting to old or to friendly to humans, but it's staggering to me how the priorities are for such things.

Five-hundred billion dollars is nothing when you consider there's a new government agency that it is said will shave two trillion from government inefficiency.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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They say this will include hundreds of thousands of jobs. I have little doubt that dedicated power generation and storage is included in their plans. Also I have no doubt that the timing is deliberate and that this is not happening without government endorsement. If I had to guess the US military also is involved in this and sees this initiative as important for national security.

They plan to have 100,000s of people employed to run on treadmills to generate the power.

A hamster wheel would work better?

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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I'm confused and a bit disturbed; honestly having a very difficult time internalizing and processing this information. This announcement is making me wonder if I'm poorly calibrated on the current progress of AI development and the potential path forward. Is the key idea here that current AI development has figured out enough to brute force a path towards AGI? Or I guess the alternative is that they expect to figure…

"There are maybe a few hundred people in the world who viscerally understand what's coming. Most are at DeepMind / OpenAI / Anthropic / X but some are on the outside. You have to be able to forecast the aggregate effect of rapid algorithmic improvement, aggressive investment in building RL environments for iterative self-improvement, and many tens of billions already committed to building data centers. Either we're a…

I am hoping it is just the usual ponzi thing.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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This is a money making scheme.

Mostly benefiting the fossil fuel industry. How are they going to power this? Gas is the only option that can be implemented within single years. And this is going to need a lot of power. Who cares about the planet, anyway.

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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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post #599

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a money making scheme.

Mostly benefiting the fossil fuel industry. How are they going to power this? Gas is the only option that can be implemented within single years. And this is going to need a lot of power. Who cares about the planet, anyway.

Trump just rescinded licenses for offshore wind farms via an EO. We're fucking cooked (and I mean this literally)

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Serious question - why Texas???

Probably for the same reason that Silcon Valley has been moving there slowly and quietly for a while now.

Because rich people inevitably don't like taxes? And maybe forest fires?

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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> All three credited Trump for helping to make the project possible, even though building has already started and the project goes back to 2024.

It’s sad to see the president of US being ass kissed so much by these guys. I always assumed there’s a little of that but this is another extreme. If this is true, I fear America has become like a third world country with a dictator like head of state where everyone just praises him and get favors in return.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Serious question - why Texas???

Natural gas to power the turbines while the nuclear plant are built, I guess. Also is Texas more open to large-scale development than elsewhere?

Any downsides?

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Serious question - why Texas???

Lots of back door deals. Just expect more government things put in TX just like the Army built that place in Austin, when we have plenty of dead bases that could be reused

:/

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Serious question - why Texas???

Texas is a world leader in renewable energy. Easy permitting, lots of space, lots of existing grid infrastructure from the o&g industry.

Any downsides?
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