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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by vlunkr »

epolanski wrote: post #573
vlunkr wrote: post #462

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It’s hardly the first time someone has shipped an app within a year of starting to code. It’s impressive, but not revolutionary.

Nono, he has shipped an app before learning to code. The fact that he liked and enjoyed coding was what actually prompted him into learning to code after that first experience.

So he’s a naturally talented developer who learned to code as he created his first app. Maybe he didn’t understand specifics, but you have to be able to intuit a lot to string a bunch of AI snippets into an app.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by qingcharles »

cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

Aren't we talking about, say, GitHub Copilot? That's integrated into Visual Studio/VSCode. I just started using it again as they've done some small upgrades, and the results can often be phenomenal. Like, I will visualize an entire block of code in my mind, and I'll type the first couple of characters and the entire block will just appear. I'm literally that predictable.

Copilot is only using GPT3.5 for most of the results though, seemingly. I'd be more excited if they would update the API they're using.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by epolanski »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #662
epolanski wrote: post #405

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> and if you have that many customers after 45 days you should just apply to YC lol. What for? If someone has already a business and customers he's already far off the average YC startup.

Who doesn't like free money and marketing?

It's not free money, you give up on a sizeable amount of equity (7%) you could also sell for more than half a million.

It depends really on the business and what not.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by mooktakim »

dartos wrote: post #675
mooktakim wrote: post #628

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They probably said the same thing when someone created vim, or vi.

Sorry, I’m not understanding what you mean. Vi and vim were never products sold for a profit. Who was saying what? And what were they saying? EDIT: ah I think I understand now. The thing is, I don’t see any advantage to having AI built into the editor vs having a plug-in. Aider.vim is pretty great, for example. The only reason to have a dedicated editor is a retention/lock in tactic.

Every time there's a new editor, or anything else, people complain why we need another one. Sometimes that new thing is innovative.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by dgellow »

pikseladam wrote: post #175
dgellow wrote: post #50

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ChatGPT is their first product. Canvas would be the second?

i think chatgpt is not a product but a service like dropbox. i don't say it is useless or can't be sold. it is just a feature for a product. GPT, in itself, is a powerful technology or tool that enhances user experiences in various applications. It provides natural language processing capabilities like answering questions, generating text, assisting with tasks, and so on. However, without a specific context or integr…

I don’t understand what distinction you’re trying to make. Dropbox is a product too. People buy subscriptions for ChatGPT, that’s the product they want. It could be based on whatever model, that’s just the platform used to build the product. Users want the brand and the UX of ChatGPT, the whole bundle. That’s the product OpenAI sells

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Post by cvs268 »

jakkos wrote: post #211
atomic128 wrote: post #75

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Don't fight this. Try to profit from it. People love these tools and they will become utterly, utterly dependent. Using a spell-checker, I have gradually lost my ability to spell. Using these LLM tools, large parts of the population will lose the ability to think. Try to own them like farm animals. The large number of tokens being processed by iterative models requires enormous energy. Look at the power draw of a Hop…

> Try to own them like farm animals. Jesus christ, I hope you are never in a position of any significant power

What would Jesus do? :-)

(did you just take the lord's name in vain?)

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by jdgoesmarching »

8338550bff96 wrote: post #673
jdgoesmarching wrote: post #381

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This very good analysis estimates 73%, which includes team and enterprise. Given that enterprise access is limited and expensive, it seems Plus and Teams are mostly carrying this. The whole financial breakdown is fascinating and I’m surprised to not see it circulating more. https://www.wheresyoured.at/oai-business/

I prefer analysis from industry experts, not PR execs moon-lighting as tech bloggers

By all means, go listen to the industry experts trying to sell you on a bubble before it pops

This analysis is just doing basic math based on reporting from the NYT and Post on OpenAI’s financials.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by golergka »

satvikpendem wrote: post #498
janoc wrote: post #290

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And venture capital.

Not sure about that, they're all losing money. OpenAI recently raised 6.5 billion but is losing 5 billion a year, it's just not sustainable. In fact it's the local LLMs that are thriving, predictably because they run on your own hardware.

It’s losing money because it invests in growth. GPT4 has cost them 500mil and is making 3b revenue annually.
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