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Zuckerberg claims regret on caving to White House pressure on content

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Post by PierceJoy »

subsubzero wrote: post #265
Malidir wrote: post #152

In Pavel's interview with Tucker Carlson, he mentions how he (VK) met with Zuckerberg, and he told them new features they were planning. And Zuck nicked them all. Zuck is on a major PR campaign drive, I would not trust a word he says.

Agree, Zuck has zero integrity and I think he sees the tea leaves in where things are headed in November and is trying to say he was bullied into making alot of disastrous decisions that he and he only ordered for an administration/party that he personally donated $400M+ to.

He donated 400m to funding election infrastructure. How is that donating to Democrats?

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Post by 3np »

resters wrote: post #217

Notably, Meta's algorithmic feed evolved so rapidly that it had major consequences before they were well understood. 1) FB launched and was able to scale past MySpace by making its feed algorithmic and gracefully degrading the freshness of content to get good uptime while MySpace was unusable during peak hours of the day. 2) FB realized that the feed being algorithmic could be a good thing, and could drive engagement…

1-10 sound about right. Though I'd question how relevant the algo/scaling component really was for FB to outcompete MySpace.

> it is funny to think about the impact on society it has compared with something like China's great firewall.

I mean, it's not like the CCP isn't doing a superset of the same things...

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Post by djur »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #465

OK, so Facebook at the request of the Biden Harris administration censored the Hunter laptop story and knew it was not actually Russian disinformation. It’s not like you could draw a straight line between this action and something you’d categorize as election interference.

There was no "Biden-Harris administration" in 2020.

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Post by djur »

cheeseomlit wrote: post #17
scott_w wrote: post #15

This whole article is really confusing. It sounds like there were two things: - Covid disinformation - Some nonsense about Hunter Biden and they're being conflated. What does Hunter Biden's laptop have to do with preventing Covid disinformation? A disease that was estimated to kill up to 30m people worldwide.

The US gov pressured social media companies to censor posts about both those topics for political reasons, even though a lot of what was said turned out to be true

Who was President of the United States when the Hunter Biden story was being "censored"?

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Post by swader999 »

mistermann wrote: post #443
swader999 wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only a few hundred genuine flat earthers. They aren't a problem. It's more of a problem to tag anyone raising questions that threaten the status quo as 'like those flat earthers'.

Flat earther, conspiracy theory, good/bad faith, etc...simple memes like this are very effective in controlling both dumb and normatively "smart" people with simple rhetoric.

It's an ad hominem attack a lot of times. Calling RFK an anti vaxxer for example. He's much different than a person that flat out refuses all vaccines. But it's very effective to call him that and shut off all engagement with any aspects of his critique.

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Post by swader999 »

andy_ppp wrote: post #127
Terretta wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also paying taxes is a public good, even if you’re exceptionally wealthy. That's not in dispute*, and the point is people can experience paper gains without being exceptionally wealthy, or even ramen profitable. * To be fair, the notion of "tax" being just supposed public good versus requiring transactional value ("no taxation without representation") was a founding issue for the U.S. These days, instead of citing…

It’s hard to put into pithy terms but check out Citibank’s former top trader on wealth inequality and why we need to find a way to tax back some of the wealth from the rich: https://youtu.be/TflnQb9E6lw

Thanks for this, watched a few of his videos and I think it will really change my view on tax going forward.

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Post by renegade-otter »

beej71 wrote: post #107

From a practical standpoint, I feel this issue is largely moot with the emergence of AI bots. Will the government have the time to chase them all? And will Facebook have the ability to censor them all?

There are absolutely ways. It's not a "solvable once" problem, but it's solvable. When there is a need, there is a way.

What was the last time you saw someone post porn on StackOverflow? Oh my, HOW do they do it?!

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Post by RoyalHenOil »

mgiampapa wrote: post #572
silverquiet wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years back it started showing me obvious political ragebait. I ignored it and then it started showing me pictures of women whose nipples were obviously showing through their clothing, which was an improvement, but still not the reason I signed up for Facebook. I've always understood it as the algorithm is looking for engagement and will try some lowest common denominator tactics to engage in it. As someone who…

There is actually a reasonable way to fix this as currently implemented. Engage with the platform in some popular areas that have their own targeted advertising. My feed is filled with STEM projects and gardening with a spritz of actual content from friends. When the product is used as intended, it does a lot better than with zero engagement passively. The product is very tuned to people actually using it, which the…

At least for me, this is even worse. I would rather have a clear separation between the content being foisted on me and the content I'm there to actually see.

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Post by Djdjur7373bb »

rsingel wrote: post #505
bko wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying Zuck is lying about being asked by the White House to censor content or regretting it?

The only White House request to censor was from Trump mad at being called a vulgarity by Chrissy Teigen. https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/02/20/james-comers-twitter-h... Being pressured to enforce your own terms of service by the government ain't censorship. Zuckerberg is a coward, afraid to stand up to Jim Jordan. What a pathetic letter

> Being pressured to enforce your own terms of service by the government ain't censorship.

When your ToS are vague enough to apply to just about anything (as most are), it absolutely can be.

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Post by Xen9 »

Xen9 wrote: post #130
chasd00 wrote: post #46

When the platforms starting censoring during the pandemic and last election cycle I remember saying they better get it right 100% of the time because the moment they get it wrong their credibility is shot. Hear we are. Censorship, beyond what’s required by law, is doomed to fail.

Counterpoint: https://rumble.com/v4e0xw0-tucker-carlson-interviews-mike-be...

Comments like this are usually not good, but in this case I believe it's better to give the link than to try to summarize the numerous points about the state of censorship in the United States and Europe that were made in that interview.
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