It's nonsense. They're claiming to be "open" but it's all still vendor controlled proprietary nonsense.
If they really want to be the dominant VR winner, then release it all under GPLv3+ and let us all get to innovate together.
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#682Are there really "millions of people" using it?
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I don't think it's a particularly sad hill to die on – Meta has proven themselves to be exploitative, invasive, and downright malicious time and time again.
I feel very sorry for people who feel that way and have their identity tied to hating Facebook/Meta
You came into this comment thread without any insight to add or anything interesting to say. You came in just to cast judgement “I feel sorry for people who don’t use Facebook”.
In fact it is you who has tied their identity to feeling superior to others. Other guy doesn’t sound like it’s his identity at all.
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#684I know I'm fighting the overwhelming tide here, but what the hell is "mixed reality"? What is "the metaverse"? For that matter what is "artificial intelligence"? Stop trying to dazzle and just use words, if the technology is revolutionary then it will be. An automobile is not the magic carpet, a cell phone is not a soulmate, etc. Otherwise fuck it -- TV is virtual reality, getting high augmented reality, TI-84 calcul…
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#685Shades of Apple licensing the Mac OS to clone hardware vendors in 1995 - 1997. It seems like Meta will be controlling the software experience quite closely, just like Apple did back in the day. There’s an important difference though: Apple made all their money on Mac hardware margins which the nimble clone vendors could undercut. Whereas for Meta, the Quest hardware has always been sold at breakeven or even as a loss…
> So there’s no kind of existential danger to Quest here, but it remains to be seen if the hardware licensees can bring anything relevant to the table either. Why would I, as a potential hardware maker, wish to compete in a market where the existing main producer is a mega wealthy entity that is already dumping product below cost and is capable of doing so indefinitely?
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Apple and to a lesser extent Google have high trust. Nobody trusts Meta at all. So who would adopt their OS?
Not sure why you wouldn't put Google and Meta in the same basket. Both are advertising companies with a history of working to undermine pro-privacy initiatives.
It's an inherently subjective assessment obviously, but I can justify it with e.g. survey results https://theharrispoll.com/partners/media/axios-harrispoll-10....
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Don’t agree with this take. I’m sure Meta would be fine with other vendors taking over the low-end, if that meant there was a vibrant platform they controlled (ie the OS). They will lead with flagship models to push the boundaries of what the OS/tech can do. Why would they want to sell at/below cost forever? The reason they do this now is to make the platform viable. The only reason they are focusing on cheaper devic…
Don’t agree with this take. Is this a command or an opinion that left out the subject of the sentence?
'take' as in 'hot take'
intended meaning : 'I disagree with your assessment and conclusions'
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#689I wonder if this "opening" of the operating system is their way of putting the metaverse project out to pasture - analogous to donating it to the Apache Foundation - without admitting that the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure.
How does any company burn $36 billion on a headset they got handed a prototype for? At a reasonable $100k/yr and 50% overhead, that's 240,000 years of labor. ~5000 human lifetimes. At a .gov labor rate of 2080 hrs/yr, that's 500,000,000 hrs of work wasted? For mediocre "not a product rendering" that looks like 90's Second Life? I'm not usually the graphic resolution crowd, yet that was rather underwhelming. Could'a j…
In terms of difficulty/complexity, nothing you've listed there comes anywhere close to the r&d required to go from the original oculus prototype to volume shipping the meta quest 3.
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#690Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple and to a lesser extent Google have high trust. Nobody trusts Meta at all. So who would adopt their OS?
I think apple has high trust only because they repeat their message all the time. However, just buy an apple device and try to use it. You cannot use it without apple allowing it. You must connect to apple and activate your device. And as part of activation, you get a chance to read apple's privacy policy. Literally thousands of pages of privacy policy without the ability to DO anything, like say "No". And everything…
> apple still won't let you use the european app store because the phone knows your location.
The national app store you get to use (the region of your iphone) is based on your billing address + card details (which obviously are validated when you enter them), not your phone location.