EU Passes Law to Switch iPhone to USB-C by End of 2024

Post by dubya » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 4:23 PM UTC

Hamcha wrote: post #150

_trackno5 wrote: post #49

Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. I don't see any win besides a minor convenience. A lightning cable weighs almost nothing and it's not a big deal to have one around. As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge their phone…

> Why do people think it is a good thing to have this enforced by law is beyond me. It's not, we're glad SOMEONE is forcing them to take this direction, but it's really sad (and potentially damaging) it had to come to this. > As to lightning port limitations, I question whether usb-c will give average iPhone users any other advantage other than charging their phone. What are people gonna do with it other than charge…

Post by yellowapple » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 4:24 PM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #622

kalleboo wrote: post #479

The EU tried very hard, for very many years to signal to the industry "do this yourself so you don't have to legislate it, we don't want to legislate it, you don't want us to legislate it" but Apple (and only Apple) just refused to listen, so here we are. For micro-USB, they got the industry together in a "memorandum of understanding" to get them to self-implement it without regulation, and it worked great - everyone…

>The EU tried very hard, for very many years to signal to the industry "do this yourself so you don't have to legislate it, we don't want to legislate it, you don't want us to legislate it" but Apple (and only Apple) just refused to listen, so here we are. This doesn’t make the approach any less interventionist. “Either do what we want or we’ll pass an official regulation for you to do what we want” isn’t much of a c…

Post by nosianu » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 4:26 PM UTC

ruuda wrote: post #666

ddoolin wrote: post #633

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It's a phone charging port. It's not that serious. It's better for consumers if we all have the same one for everything, if possible. Unless you can tell me why not?

Imagine this happened a few years ago, and the EU had instead demanded micro-USB. Then we would still be flipping plugs twice, and I wouldn't be able to use my laptop charger to charge my phone. It's not clear to me that USB-C is good enough to be the "final" connector, especially with the mess around USB versions, Thunderbolt, Displayport, etc. Unlike e.g. power sockets, where I am pretty confident that the current…

Post by dahfizz » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 4:27 PM UTC

pimterry wrote: post #351

Krkrmfnfmmd wrote: post #335

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Government mandates on how you can charge your phone won't stifle innovation?

Yes, it won't. As parent points out, the EU previously mandated micro-usb support ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply ) which worked fairly well, and hasn't stifled the innovation that's resulted in USB-C.

Post by gabrieledarrigo » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 4:30 PM UTC

kmlx wrote: post #637

doikor wrote: post #609

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> A political organization like EU has no say in this. EU and most people living within it would disagree with this statement.

> and most people living within it without a referendum on such issues these kinds of statements are moot. i'm also an EU citizen and this thing (along with many other EU decisions) are in the same dystopian vein as the covid fiasco in europe.