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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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He is being wronged, as are you. Each and every time a company takes freedom away from their users they are being wronged, and when the company is as big as Youtube then we all get wronged. The "defiant tantrum" is simply taking the stance that that is not admisible, how you consider that to be childish behavior I don't even know. >Are you truly the victim today, in this pandemic? So give up freedoms, for the common…

You don't have the freedom to murder, enslave, or kidnap. I don't think you should have the freedom to spread a deadly disease. Especially since COVID-19 spreads without symptoms, we have to prioritize prevention. Besides, we've had our freedoms eroded time and again since the World Trade Centre attacks. Why are some Americans choosing now to draw a line in the sand? Because previously the laws were targeting brown s…

Agreed, it's never absolute, it's about if the measure that curtains freedom is appropriate to the threat. My personal belief is that in 2021, taking off your shoes at airport security isn't necessary (but I'll comply, of course), but refusing to host COVID disinformation is a good idea.

This attempt to make COVID control measure into a scare story about a slippery slope where the "freedom" is vanishing over time is IMHO wrong (COVID control measures are not that) and misdirecting (pay attention to what FaceBook does, voter suppression, etc, if real examples that slope is what you are looking for).

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Boris Johnson actually did something similar. Iirc, he gave an interview where he bizarrely and repeatedly mentioned the fact that he likes to paint wine boxes like buses...over and over. And it was thought (and, most likely, leaked) that he was doing this so that when people Googled "Boris bus" it would come up with this story, and not the story about the infamous "Brexit bus" (it also leaked that it was Lynton Cros…

Or Rees-Mogg „lying“ in parliament.

What's this refer to?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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If the Presidency were an oligarchy, neither Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama could have become President. And Trump could have never won, since most of the power groups were overwhelmingly against him winning, and he won solely due to his populist voter base - democracy in action in fact. Trump also raised drastically less money than Hillary Clinton did; if there's an oligarchy trying to pick presidents it was against…

you've just perhaps inadvertently explained why trump is/was so popular, despite being a self-centered idiot. he was able to stick a thumb in the eye of the american oligarchs, and that felt to many americans like a sliver of hope against the hegemonization of america. but that our political system isn't a full-on autocratic aristocracy doesn't mean it isn't oligarchal. oligarchy implies an outsized influence by a sm…

This is what I try to explain to people who don't understand how Trump got elected. Anyone who has little faith in the system can find something to like about Trump, and the establishment's hue and cry over him simply adds to their fervor.

A true countercultural president is rare, and the overlooked people in the country got one. His policy could be anything, as long as it makes the coastal folks angry.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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This is a fascinating tweet on many levels. 1) I think it's safe to assume that Joe Biden has no SEO expertise, which means that someone with the power to send the President of the United States out for a photo op does. They went out and found someone named Brandon for Biden to pose for a photo op with. 2) To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. 3…

We were duped! I fell for it! News straight up lied to control the 2020 election narrative and outcome. We have watched an unprecedented fast fall into authoritarianism. Major networks are all but complete propaganda departments. Biden criticism was swept under the rug to protect him all the while the media held no punches for his opposition. Rational nuanced discussion of pandemic and related policies were off the t…

It's understandable you fell for it. Good on you for admitting it. It takes a strong mind to change their mind

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. Does this really surprise you? - The opposing parties leadership is censored more than every authoritarian around the world. - stories about Biden’s son is censored - bad stories about Biden are censored - every person connected to the opposing party is being “investigated” - the DOJ literally sent out a s…

This is gross. It's gross because you're right, there are a lot of things that politcians get a pass on. That's not okay. But you are making ridiculous absurd statements. No, not everyone in the other part is getting investigated. No, not anyone who claimed interference is getting threatened. How would that be possible if up until the last week (and going well into the future), we're discussing this stuff? This absur…

> You're jumping in bed with people that lie.

Not the OC, but this is quite the claim considering you're doing exactly the same thing

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Well established scientific concensus. If you're referring to anything related to Covid there's no well-established scientific consensus it literally just happened around year and a half ago it's impossible to have scientific consensus. Even the most respected scientists are saying they don't know about a lot of things related to covid. also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post . Galileo wa…

> also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post . It indeed is. As a layperson who knows nothing about a field, not even a closely related field your best bet is to accept the scientific consensus. And by best bet I mean that that that is the choice that will give you the highest expected value of success. People keep pointing at the cases from the past (sometimes from the very far past, like w…

> science has evolved a lot since then.

Given that there is no way to measure absolute scientific progress, this is a meaningless and baseless claim.

At the time of Galileo, scientists had, after many centuries, perfected their means of calculating geocentric orbits. Thee equations worked extremely well. Experts at the time would have told you that science had progressed significantly since the time of Aristotle. Yet it had progressed in a completely wrong direction.

There is no reason to believe science is somehow progressed perfectly today in every arena.

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