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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by pdimitar »

nopato wrote: post #489
pdimitar wrote: post #467

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Most non-technical people I know opt for iPhones because they know they can use them for 5-6 years with 1-2 battery swaps (that costs 30 EUR where I live). And for display quality. I keep hearing this adage of "iPhone as a status symbol" and I have legitimately never in my life seen it. Only ever saw people on the internet talking about it. An anecdotal data point for you, if it's useful.

Let me give you some perspective. It might not be a status symbol in the US and Europe but in the rest of the world it definitely is. I’ve lived in the uk for a while and no one cared that was wearing an iPhone. But as soon as I moved back to my home country everyone thinks I’m rich. And they’re right to think this way as the price of iPhones in my country is completely absurd. Everyone thinks an 800 pounds phone is…

I work remotely so to me the local average wage bears zero relevance.

I buy an iPhone for a number of reasons. I recognize it's expensive but it's usually at least a 3-year investment and to be fair, the cost per annum is basically the same for most Android flagships, only that Apple users switch devices less often.

This can likely be endlessly contested by the frugal folk but I am not here for that.

My reasons actually are highly irrelevant. I shared an anecdote about very regular non-tech people. They keep telling me the same stories after they switch from Android to iPhone and that's not accidental.

But again, cost of living in the country of residence doesn't mean much if you work remotely.

> It makes no sense unless you really want it as a status symbol.

You could have just said: "I am an Apple hater" and it would have saved us both time and keystrokes. :)

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by fsflover »

imiric wrote: post #223
Server6 wrote: post #122

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Here's a list: Apple – American Samsung Mobile – South Korean Nokia Mobile – Finnish Google Pixel – American Sony Mobile – Japanese LG – South Korean BLU Products – American Lava – Indian Sharp – Japanese Fairphone – Dutch Philips Mobile – Dutch Yotaphone – Russian BQ – Spanish Acer – Taiwanese Asus – Taiwanese HTC – Taiwanese Essential Products – American Cherry Mobile – Philippino DoCoMo – Japanese Panasonic Mobile…

Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located. I wasn't able to track down the country of origin for many of them, but at least Fairphone is open about it, and 75% of its components are manufactured in China[1]. Apple devices are still mostly produced in China, with some smaller scale operations in India[2]. I woul…

> Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located.

Librem 5 USA is manufactured in the USA: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by will_bl »

CivBase wrote: post #579
Crono wrote: post #445

Very sad. I found the perfect smartphone for me - the V20. It almost feels like a smartphone that happened by accident and will never return in its glorious form again. Dont know what else to use if it dies. Already have a spare Screen and its 4th Battery ready to be used. The second screen is just the perfect solution for having an allways on display without a real (and stupid) notch. I love this feature. Also knock…

My first (and apparently last, now) LG phone was a V30. It's currently my main driver and I have no plans to get rid of it. It has expandable storage, a headphone jack, a full screen with a very thin chin and forehead, a decent camera, loud speakers, a good fingerprint reader, FM radio, a battery that still gets me through a full day easily, and almost everything I want from a phone at what was a very competitive pri…

Agreed on how good the V30's design is.

Mine unfortunately got stuck in a bootloop last Thursday, so I'm going to have to go looking for new phones again - I'm considering just getting another V30, however.

It's worth noting, though, that I felt the same about my OnePlus X when it died ("no other phone will ever be good enough!") - perhaps I like the V30 mostly just because I've used it a lot.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by oriolid »

pjmlp wrote: post #671
oriolid wrote: post #666

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"Good enough for Samsung" is very, very low bar. It could have been removed too because app developers didn't use it, because they couldn't make it stable or because they couldn't make it work together with mic permissions. Anyway, I'm interested in numbers, and specifically whether switching from Android Audio or OpenSL to AAudio brings any significant improvement.

What the hell is Android Audio? I suggest you to educate yourself in Android audio subsytems.

It's a name that's sometimes used for AudioTrack, AudioRecord and related classes under android.media. Does that collection have an official name? I would also suggest that you learn some manners.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by CivBase »

SMAAART wrote: post #656
CivBase wrote: post #579

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My first (and apparently last, now) LG phone was a V30. It's currently my main driver and I have no plans to get rid of it. It has expandable storage, a headphone jack, a full screen with a very thin chin and forehead, a decent camera, loud speakers, a good fingerprint reader, FM radio, a battery that still gets me through a full day easily, and almost everything I want from a phone at what was a very competitive pri…

https://lineageos.org/ ?

I've thought about trying LineageOS. I tried and failed to get it running on my old Galaxy S3, though. It wasn't a big deal because I long-since stopped using that phone. But I'm a bit more cautious about trying to do that with my main driver, especially since LG phones probably aren't supported as well as Samsung phones.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by scionthefly »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #451
xpressvideoz wrote: post #69

I've appreciated LG's adventurous moves. The one I liked the most was LG Optimus 3D, which provided a naked-eye 3D display similar to that of Nintendo 3DS. The most recent LG Wing, I was hopeful. But LG also left a bad taste in my mouth. The last LG phone I used, Nexus 5X, died all of a sudden, but after months of despair, I could revive it using a freaking hair dryer .[1] Yeah, some of you who are well versed to sol…

Yeah similar experience my nexus 5X, and G4, both failed fairly quickly and I wasn't game to try LG after 2 in a row with issues.

My G3: SIM card reader error. I had inserted the SIM card once, at the AT&T store when I bought it. It was days out of the one year warranty and LG wouldn't help at all.

Wife's G3: Video chip error. Same source as the above failure: solder fails. Broken solder joints on BGA chips and card readers. Hers was just within warranty, but they had no G3s to offer, so she was given a G4. Guess what happened to the G4? Same failure. No further help.

In contrast, my Samsung Galaxy Victory from 2012 still works fine (carried it for two years). My Samsung S8+ works fine after carrying it nearly four years. My Moto G3 works fine after five years and having carried it for two.

The problem is LG. Good riddance.

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Post by drewzero1 »

fX0rObfoMN4 wrote: post #558
jcronenberg wrote: post #312

What I find most sad about this is that LG appears to be the only manufacturer who makes phones with both wireless charging and a headphone jack. Somehow these features seem to contradict themselfs for other manufacturers. Wireless charging is seen as a premium feature, while headphone jack is seen as a budget feature. I unfortunately have gotten so used to both that I don't want to give them up. I love my wired head…

You can use GSM Arena's Phone Finder tool to search for phones with specific feature sets. In this case released 2019 or newer, 3.5 mm jack, and wireless charging[0]. As of now there are 26 phones that match those criteria and 10 of them are from LG. Three are from Huawei which means they are basically useless outside of China. Looking at high end devices you are left with the 3 year old Samsung S10[+], the Motorola…

I'm currently in the research phase of switching back to a smartphone and have been using GSM Arena a lot for comparing specs, but didn't realize their search tool could be used like that. This is exactly what I needed to see right now, thank you!

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by pjmlp »

dvdkon wrote: post #672
pjmlp wrote: post #648

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APKs are deprecated, replaced by Android App Bundles, adapt or die.

You keep saying that, but I don't see Termux dying unless Google straight up disallows fork() for all apps, even old ones.

Given that fork() isn't part of stable APIs list, it might end in seccomp list.

But there is hope, just like with mingw, termux can use the OS official APIs to launch processes.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by pjmlp »

oriolid wrote: post #684
pjmlp wrote: post #671

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the hell is Android Audio? I suggest you to educate yourself in Android audio subsytems.

It's a name that's sometimes used for AudioTrack, AudioRecord and related classes under android.media. Does that collection have an official name? I would also suggest that you learn some manners.

Well, as someone with Android development experience I never saw it mentioned like that anywhere.

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Post by timothyduong »

vbezhenar wrote: post #327
xpressvideoz wrote: post #69

I've appreciated LG's adventurous moves. The one I liked the most was LG Optimus 3D, which provided a naked-eye 3D display similar to that of Nintendo 3DS. The most recent LG Wing, I was hopeful. But LG also left a bad taste in my mouth. The last LG phone I used, Nexus 5X, died all of a sudden, but after months of despair, I could revive it using a freaking hair dryer .[1] Yeah, some of you who are well versed to sol…

My iPhone 4S had broken WiFi chip which I revived with hair dryer as well. Should I draw conclusions about Apple? Every device has a possibility of defects.

Well the thing is that Apple gave me an on the spot replacement for a broken Wi-Fi/Bluetooth chip.

LG requires a shipment from Australia to Asia and a 3-4 week turn-around time.

Yeah nah...

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