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Re: New iPhone SE

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I don't really get the hate for the lack of a headphone jack tbh. Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance? My Beats Solo 3 have fantastic battery life, i can switch between devices with a click of a button (in the case of the Bose QC35 even be connected to two devices at the same time, listening to music on the laptop while being able to receive phone calls on the phone…

It's strictly a decrease in functionality. My phone, with a headphone jack, also supports bluetooth, if I wanted to use it. What do I gain by losing the headphone jack?

Obviously some combination of water resistance, more space for battery, space for other components (larger camera), or along those lines.

There is no consumer device used by virtually everyone where every square millimeter counts more than in a cell phone. It's not like there's just an empty hole where the jack would be otherwise.

That space is being used for whatever component(s) Apple thinks its customers, as a whole, find more valuable -- i.e. a net increase in functionality for the average consumer, even if not for you personally.

Re: New iPhone SE

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post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Comments like this always make me really glad that I've never tried "good" audio equipment. I think music sounds great with my Sony XM3s and even my AirPods, and I don't have to travel with a DAC to experience it. shrug

I think Tennyson's famous lines "Tis better to have loved and lost, / Than never to have loved at all" apply here. :)

Re: New iPhone SE

#683

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I don't think the headphone jack is coming back. Ever.

Written from my galaxy s10

Re: New iPhone SE

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I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, but the only standard. Utterly insane. I replaced my SE with a Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact yesterday. It has a 5" screen and decent specs (2018 flagship). About as small as you can get a mobile nowadays, sadly. And wow how I've missed Android, the UX is soooo much better in most aspects. I can't believe I was stuck with iOS (as…

It's funny that 5" smartphone is branded as "compact" :D

Re: New iPhone SE

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post #247

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Have you considered LG phones. They pride themselves on having a powerful DAC and obviously headphone jack

Re: New iPhone SE

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> The first iPhone SE was a hit with many customers who loved its unique combination of small size, high-end performance and affordable price; the new second-generation iPhone SE builds on that great idea and improves on it in every way. Customers loved how it was both small and powerful, so we've improved it by making it much larger...[1] OK, I realise they mean "small compared to the ridiculous size of other phones…

They just don’t get it. This isn’t a replacement for the SE, because it doesn’t actually improve on the things SE owners cared about improving. Things like an edge-to-edge screen and a kick-ass camera in the same form factor, not an iPhone 7 reboot with wireless charging and a faster CPU. What’s more, I know I’m not alone in saying I’d be willing to pay MORE for an ultra-premium small device like that than for any of the iPhone models being pushed as “top of the line” right now, because there are no good alternatives. Unfortunate letdown by the individuals at Apple who put this together, reminds me of the ‘97 Malibu.

Re: New iPhone SE

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I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

FaceID is so terrible. It's hard to imagine a company based out of sunny California invented an authentication system that requires you to remove your sunglasses. It also sucks in any bright environment like say... the beach. Which they don't have much of in California of course. When the ambient IR is too high the sensor can't see it's own tracking dots on your face so it can't build the 3D mesh to authenticate you.…

Of course fingerprint sensors also fail in common situations like when your hand is sweaty or not clean, or the phone isn’t dry.

Re: New iPhone SE

#688
This is just an iPhone 8 mk II (it even fits 8 cases!), and that means those of us who want an actual SE replacement are now out of luck. Rather disappointing.

Re: New iPhone SE

#689

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's strictly a decrease in functionality. My phone, with a headphone jack, also supports bluetooth, if I wanted to use it. What do I gain by losing the headphone jack?

Obviously some combination of water resistance, more space for battery, space for other components (larger camera), or along those lines. There is no consumer device used by virtually everyone where every square millimeter counts more than in a cell phone. It's not like there's just an empty hole where the jack would be otherwise. That space is being used for whatever component(s) Apple thinks its customers, as a who…

"That space is being used for whatever component(s) Apple thinks its customers, as a whole, find more valuable -- i.e. a net increase in functionality for the average consumer, even if not for you personally. "

This is assuming that "what Apple thinks its customers want" === "what Apples customers want"

Re: New iPhone SE

#690

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

Now if I could just get one without a Camera...
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