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> GitHub bans repository over use of the word "retard" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966118 https://github.com/nixxquality/WebMConverter/commit/c1ac0baa...

Well, it is still decentralized. The author still has a copy of the repo and can always upload to other servers.

The question was about censorship, not dedecentralization. That the author still has a copy is irrelevant.

Here more about GitHub suffering from state-censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_GitHub

GitHub also censors any content that they deem stolen (such as the NSA Malware / EquationGroup releases) and content that they deem containing PII-data (such as the public LinkedIn crawl of people stating they work for ICE).

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Github is a great UI that we all are familiar with and there is a huge community around it, which is great for OSS, but I have to say, I trust Gitlab more than I trust Github. I am a happy user of Gitlab for 3 years now, I have been using it for all of my private stuff and using it actively for around 10 projects at the moment, and I have seen the product change over time both visually and functionally. There are mul…

Thank you so much for your support. We'll respond with our work on the container registry. Mind if we make this into a blog post?

Sure, you can do whatever you like with it. I am genuinely happy and proud of using Gitlab, I have grown as an engineer with Gitlab, and I feel like Gitlab has grown with me too. I hope you guys enjoy the work you do, because I enjoy your work and I can pursue my projects thanks to you guys' efforts. Keep up the good work!

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Github's competitors are already providing the same service for free. Github is dropping their prices from $7 / mo to free to compete.

But they're not. They created a new, feature-reduced repo type to make free/private. The marketing hides this, and you need to dig to the "Comparison" section to see it: https://github.com/pricing#feature-comparison

Good point, it's not the exact same. But their new offering is much closer to what their competitors are offering, so I'd say it's still a move to try to better compete with the free offerings from other companies.

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Ballmer left a company that was a mess. He was boosting profits through repeated layoffs and price squeezing. It had just bought my former employer (Nokia's phone business) without a clear strategy. Windows Phone was already failing in the market due to a series of strategic blunders, arrogance, and poor product positioning and platform strategy. Windows 7 and 8 had largely flopped in the market with lackluster adopt…

"Ballmer left a company that was a mess. He was boosting profits through repeated layoffs and price squeezing." I see no evidence for your statement. Ballmer 4x-ed MSFT revenue during his tenure. He made far more money for MSFT than Gates ever did, and his growth track record is better than Satya so far. Ballmer pushed XBox, Azure, Office/Cloud, re-orged the sales teams. Increased revenues for all the other major pro…

I see no evidence for any of the points you are trying to make either.

You seem to equate revenue with success, which is not how this stuff works. Shareholder value is actually tied to the prospects for long term success (accumulated profits over time). MS shares were considered overvalued, not undervalued when Ballmer left (or depending on your interpretation, fired by an unhappy board).

Its OSS contributions are critical to both MS and how well it is able to convince developers to build on top of MS platforms. It's critical for it's credibility with Azure. I know people that now consider this a serious alternative to AWS or Google cloud that for sure don't have any interest on running C# on Windows Server while using SQL server. But it sure is a nice way to run some Linux stuff these days.

Satya Nadella also had to absorb a lot of the Ballmer era mistakes. Like paying five billion for the right to shut down an organization (Nokia's Phone business) for probably billions more. As I recall, that was one quarter where MS indeed made a historically unique loss and Ballmer pushed that deal through. Bing indeed is another dud. Windows Phone itself of course was the latest in a series of failures for MS to capture the mobile market that date back to last century.

The fact that it took a few years to recover after Ballmer left strongly suggests that 1) there were indeed problems in MS (i.e. shareholders were right) 2) Nadella addressed those problems. MS is of course valued around a 1 Trillion or so now. This may have a thing or two to do with the fact that he's not doing that bad of a job and that their future looks a lot brighter than a few years ago.

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> Your assertion can only make sense if you also believe that a 12% paycut is irrelevant to your income. You only see the short term. I was on Github during my university, all my projects were there, my team mate were on there too, it was pretty great. When my student account expired, I decided to move everything to Gitlab. I didn't want to move but I won't pay 7$ a month to host my old school projects and some perso…

I totally agree with you. And to add to your point, the impact of having a dominance in the market of "personal project repos" extends far beyond individual developers paying money on their personal accounts and/or becoming paying customers when they start their own companies. If you think about mid-sized software companies (~10-100 devs), if 80% of your developers have a strong preference for Github over Gitlab or B…

Also, if the VP of Eng. or whoever is making the decision thinks of Github as the default git SaaS because it's what they have used since college, there's a good chance they will just go with Github without even evaluating alternatives.

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I'm not so sure. LinkedIn was always quite spammy. Sourceforge did some absolutely egregious things, including bundling adware with windows binaries. Maybe the people at Microsoft don't know it, but one of the reasons GitHub has such a huge market share is because it hasn't done any of those things. Sure, MS could have bought it to use its reputation as capital and try and maximise income at all costs. It seems that…

Sourceforge got revived from its ashes though. It's a nice site nowdays.

I just opened up a project on there to see what you meant. I immediately got hit with 7 different ads on different parts of the page. It still feels pretty scummy to me. I understand the need for ads but 7? It seems excessive.

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Ah ok, so you change Microsoft cloud for Google cloud... UAU... And what about PRs&c? Sorry for being rude but for me is unacceptable to depend on tons of proprietary stuff from a handful of vendors. Even personal websites that use Google Fonts, some JS framework directly from the "project" CDN (too hard to keep it on your disk, up to date) etc... We need to be interdependent or independent not dependent of few subje…

You do realize that git itself is vendor independent, right? One can, if one chooses, setup a git repository on a spare PC in ones basement and have a "git repository" into which one or more collaborators can "git push" and "git pull" to/from. In the context of the original post, to which you asked "what is another remote", the second (or third, or fourth) 'remote' can be "any git repository to which the individual h…

Yes, git, however host a repo for anyone it's another story. In the past most FOSS projects was mirrored by tons of different participants, mostly universities, ISPs, companies with reasonable resource and being part of the project itself they can be considered friendly.

now with GitHub&c excluding Savannah the sole friendly option is buy a domain, a VPS and host there the project...

That's the problem, not technical but "political" to a certain extent.

In the past someone try GitTorrent to solve this problem a bit (opening the door for "personal hosting at home" but it's a dead project now ad it was never completed. Mostly because newcomers think GitHub&c as a free space by nature, something guarantee to work always and been always free without any other "occult" cost.

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Honest question: how do you make github search work for you? It often fails to find stuff that I know exists in a given repo. Nothing fancy, even single-word full symbol names.

I've found usefull code snippets on github via google in the past.

How do you search for those exactly?

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A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

I really hate all the "social network" features of github, and I will eventually delete my non-work github account if they keep pushing in that direction. Adding "emoji reactions" was a really bad sign IMHO.

I'm not keen on social network-type sites either but the emoji reactions are far better than getting showered with "+1" e-mails.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Thank you so much for your support. We'll respond with our work on the container registry. Mind if we make this into a blog post?

Sure, you can do whatever you like with it. I am genuinely happy and proud of using Gitlab, I have grown as an engineer with Gitlab, and I feel like Gitlab has grown with me too. I hope you guys enjoy the work you do, because I enjoy your work and I can pursue my projects thanks to you guys' efforts. Keep up the good work!

Thank you!
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