I want Anthropic to be the good guys. I think Anthropic should explain why they're doing this particular partnership.
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Identity verification on Claude
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But given the hoopla about how a driver’s license isn’t valid in the SAVE act because it doesn’t prove you’re a US citizen, how is drivers license verification going to satisfy the US national requirement here?
It probably won't. It will probably have to be a U.S. passport.
Many states have extra markings on the card for citizens vs legal residents. A valid birth certificate would also be enough since the US is one of the only nations to recognize birthright citizenship.
Also worth pointing out that most Americans don't have passports and getting one can take anywhere from 6 weeks to 6 months.
Also, you'd have to be smoking something to assume that the three letter agencies are not going to be combing through Anthropic's customer list and assessing for fraud and foreign bad-actors. If you lie, they'll probably catch you eventually and most people are not stupid enough to lie about their identity to the US government and think they'll get away with it forever.
Re: Identity verification on Claude
#673The ID verification is also being used to enforce Claude's 18+ age restriction.
It seems there is no way for a high school student to use Claude for any purpose, including as part of a supervised project or class.
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> I’m a US citizen and absolutely will not be uploading additional information just to use a company’s models. I can't speak to your specific use of Anthropic's models, but I find it interesting that people will identify themselves (to set up and pay for an account) and provide all sorts of personal (and often sensitive if not confidential) information to these models on a daily basis, but balk at a 5-minute identity…
It is just the standard performative outrage over and over. The same person will be uploading their ID a few days after it is introduced. So many people have internalized an anonymous audience that they are performing to in terms of what they think the anonymous audience wants to hear that they can't tell what is their own actual thoughts and motivations. That is why the motivation changes two weeks later and the ID…
Some of us hold grudges on account of performative outrage. Ubisoft made invasive DRM the norm in gaming ~20 years ago. While other companies now do the same thing, I'm still boycotting. Fuck'em.
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Despite what’s being implied everywhere, this ID check page has been there since April. Wayback Machine if you don’t believe me: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... > As a non-US citizen Opus 4.8 is the best American LLM I will ever have access to. That's no longer up for debate or question. This is a crazy conclusion for a situation that isn’t even two weeks old. LLMs are not the first te…
This is a strange plea for optimism. Sincerely or not, judgement is yours, Dario has been begging for regulation. He has been talking about how Claude models are distilled by foreign adversaries. And now the regulation is here. What makes you think this situation that the CEO of Anthropic is asking for it temporary? Do you not believe Dario was sincere?
There are three issues here:
1. Identity verification as a way to validate real-personness and mitigate distillation by e.g. North Korea
2. Identity veriiication as a way to limit model usage to US residents / citizens
3. The level of model which will be subject to identity verification, today and as time goes on
It’s a mistake to conflate the three and form a rock solid opinion of exactly what will happen from here to the heat death of the universe. Everything about AI is moving quickly. I doubt Dario would claim to have a perfect roadmap not subject to change.
My personal guess is that just like export controls on CPUs, this will apply differently to different regions, and will change over time. Especially with US political instability and increasing anti-science policy, I cannot imagine Dario or anyone else would want to surrender the EU and other markets to become a US-only company.
But whether I’m right or wrong, one thing I’m not is certain. I can’t imagine how anyone could be in the current situation.
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That ship has sailed. Even if you never even tab complete in cursor, if you don’t let LLMs review your code you’re very, very behind unless you’re in a deeply specialized domain which doesn’t have any public training data available. Anything remotely public and you’re just outpaced.
Mythos found one low-severity vulnerability in curl.
Curl is one of the most audited code bases, so that's not surprising.
Put it in front of a common-ish Python or NPM package and see what it finds, likely going to be a lot more.
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What allies? You threatened to invade Canada and Greenland. You surely don't think you're coming back from that?
> What allies? > You threatened to invade Canada and Greenland. > You surely don't think you're coming back from that? Trump threatened. Those were unserious remarks by an unserious person who's 80 years old. If that was all it takes to permanently demolish those alliances, they were never actually there.
It's the fact that he wasn't immediately removed from office that's the underlying problem.
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Persona isn’t just an id upload. It’s also face scan by video.
Surprised there isn't a "Fake Face" market like a mannequin face delivered to your door.
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#680Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is just the standard performative outrage over and over. The same person will be uploading their ID a few days after it is introduced. So many people have internalized an anonymous audience that they are performing to in terms of what they think the anonymous audience wants to hear that they can't tell what is their own actual thoughts and motivations. That is why the motivation changes two weeks later and the ID…
Some of us hold grudges on account of performative outrage. Ubisoft made invasive DRM the norm in gaming ~20 years ago. While other companies now do the same thing, I'm still boycotting. Fuck'em.
I'd say before Ubisoft, Valve was the one to really spearhead DRM by introducing online verification to play Half-Life 2. Before HL2, it was almost unthinkable for a game to require Internet access to be played and most copy protection relied on serial numbers and/or presence of the original game CD. HL2 was high profile enough to make people accept the restriction.