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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The 120Hz / "soap opera effect" is a matter of perspective. I hate the judder and blur during 30Hz camera pans. Love interpolated smoothness.

Same. I actually was fine watching 24/30FPS on an older TV, but on the 120Hz screen it just looks incredibly juddery without a little motion smoothing.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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"Filmmaker mode" is the industry's attempt at this. On supported TVs it's just another picture mode (like vivid or standard), but it disables all the junk the other modes have enabled by default without wading though all the individual settings. I don't know how widely adopted it is though, but my LG OLED from 2020 has it.

On my Samsung film mode has an insane amount of processing. Game Mode is the setting where the display is most true to what's being sent to it.

Not "Film mode", but "Filmmaker mode". The latter is a trademark with specific requirements.

Game mode will indeed likely turn off any expensive latency-introducing processing but it's unlikely to provide the best color accuracy.

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Can anyone explain why my Samsung s95b oled TV film maker mode is so dark?

I'm a parent with young kids and I just do not have time to delve into all the settings. I've managed to stop films looking like soap operas but I'm not sure exactly what I've adjusted.

Also, if I'm watching from my pc on the same TV using VLC player is it a mistake just to leave the TV on "game mode" ? This seems to work fine, but I've no idea how that interacts with settings on the TV.

One last rant, it seems to have a setting that uses a light sensor to darken the picture if the room is dark. It seems to be nearly impossible to turn off except through some service menu nonsense I really don't want to touch. The only temp fix is turning the TV on and off again, which I've resorted to when I literally couldn't see what was going on in the film.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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TV shows changed completely in the streaming age it seems. These days they really are just super long movies with glacial pacing to keep users subscribed.

Even as an older person, I prefer the new format, with the exception of the now common 2-3 year gaps between seasons. That part of it, while I know the reasons given for it, is becoming increasingly annoying/frustrating.

I seem to remember that it was The X-Files that first pioneered the “every episode is a mini-movie” and it showed in the production at the time compared to other stuff.

Could be mis-remembering though, when I think about early anthologies like Twilight Zone or Freddy’s Nightmares.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

#675
Gamers do the same thing.

AI frame-gen Film grain Chromatic aberration Motion blur

Once the TVs became video cards with filtering and fake refresh rates this was always our fate.

Monitors and default video card drivers have had issues in the past. You'd think the TVs would update their filters with as much spyware data mining they do. But alas, your TV will likely never improve by software in any significance. History has proven that.

Disabling all the features to the hardware spec is best, never connecting a smarttv to the net. Interested in any true exceptions.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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The fact that I have to turn on closed captioning to understand anything tells me these producers have no idea what we want and shouldn’t be telling us what settings to use.

Do you have a stereo setup?

I suspect downmixes to stereo and poor builtin speakers might be heavily contributing to the issue you describe. Anecdotally, I have not encountered this issue after I added a center channel.

Nor do I have any issues with the loudness being inconsistent between scenes. I suspect that might be an another thing introduced by downmixing. All the surround channels are "squished" into stereo, making the result louder than it would have otherwise been.

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Never had an issue with Stranger Things. Maybe you're using the internal speakers?

I watch YouTube with internal TV speakers and I understand everything, even muddled accents. I cannot understand a single TV show or movie with the same speakers. Something tells me it's about the source material, not the device.

YouTube very likely has only a 2.0 stereo mix, TV shows and movies are mostly multichannel. Something tells me it's about the source material being a poor fit for your setup.

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Sounds like you are just using internal speakers. They are notorious for bad vocal range audio. I have a decent surround sound and had no issues at all.

I'm listening to a majority of video content in my stereo headphones on PC. They are good and quality of every source is good. Everything sounds fine except for some movie and some TV shows specifically. And those are atrocious in clarity. Regarding internal speakers, I have listened to several cheap to medium TVs on internal speakers, and yes on some models the sound was bad. But it doesn't matter, because the most…

Do you really expect a downmix of eight channels into two to sound super clear?

New content especially comes with more channels, more channels that will get muddled into your two for output.

Do you spend the effort of specifically selecting stereo tracks (or adjusting how it gets downmixed)?

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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That would be true, except even in calm scenes in movies it's an issue. Unless I turn the volume high enough, in which case music and sfx become neighbor-waking loud. To be clear: I'm not talking about scenes where characters speak over an explosion. The overall mix does not allow having the same volume for all scenes of the movie, pick your poison: wake the neighbors or don't understand dialogues. Somehow youtube vi…

It's the same idea, a narrated youtube video is meant to have the same volume throughout, while a movie is meant to have quiet and loud parts. The problem, as you say, is that if you don't want to have loud parts, you lower the volume so that loud is not loud anymore, and then the quiet but audible parts become inaudibly quiet. I consider this to be a separate issue to the lack of clarity of internal speakers, and a…

That the entire problem is intentional does not make it any less of a defect.

Intentionally making audio uncomfortable is not a sign of art or skill, it's a sign of delivering a bad product.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

#680
People rightly decry the "smart" aspects of modern TVs, but these are quite bad as well. I really just want a display. I don't want: HDR, frame interpolation, weird dynamic coloring, etc, etc. It's the equivalent of a kid for first learned to use photoshop.
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