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OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #237

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Isn't Gemini CLI 1000 requests/day free? https://blog.google/technology/developers/introducing-gemini...

It's false advertising - 1000 model requests, not 1000 Gemini 2.5 Pro requests. It drops to Flash after 3-5 requests and Flash is useless.

Flash is very very good (better than 4.1 at faster speeds). Just not anywhere near 2.5 pro.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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I seriously cannot keep up. I fell a bit behind and now I feel I need a primer to know who owns/acquired/developed all these additional things surrounding the ai space

That information is as important as knowing about soap opera characters.

That is refreshing to hear and a great perspective shift for me, haha

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #646

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Which Emacs Package do you use for CoPilot, i tried using Copilot.el a long while ago, but had problems with it. Is there something new or does copilot.el fulfill your needs?

Just copilot.el (I checked to be sure and I'm pulling from github.com/zerolfx/copilot.el) My config is quite simple: (progn (require 'copilot) (add-hook 'prog-mode-hook 'copilot-mode) (add-hook 'git-commit-mode-hook 'copilot-mode) (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'copilot-mode) (define-key copilot-completion-map (kbd "y") 'copilot-accept-completion) (define-key copilot-completion-map (kbd "n") 'copilot-next-completion) (defi…

I’ll give it another look, thanks! Seems so easy to do!

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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What does it offer that's better than running CC with Pycharm/Jetbrains?

I just tried it out. It does feel better than CC for some tasks . I think what Junie does differently it has better context on what the IDE knows or sees , from what files are open or typedefs are loaded, I could achieve some simpler tasks with lesser prompts and less tokens and cycles than with CC or even windsurf. Jetbrains has the best incentive to integrate deeply I imagine, it has always been question of executi…

I agree with you on the integration.

The biggest problem for me is that I can't link my Claude Pro (or Max) account to it. So now I'm paying for two LLM accounts (even if I used Junie for coding I use Claude for other things, research, etc., so wouldn't drop it).

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #625

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You don’t see how robots would replace all these roles? I take it you never seen a Waymo or read about how agriculture needs a tiny fraction of humans in the US vs a couple of decades ago? And those aren’t even “AGI-level” solutions…

Waymo aren’t build, maintained and disposed by robots only. Even if they were we’ve still to see how that can be deployed (and make sense economically) to more than a couple percentiles of the richest people in the top cities. That has nothing in common with "replacing the humans". Agriculture efficiency mainly comes from last century fertilizer. The modern robot trucks are also limited to some richest countries and…

You’re missing the point so completely, I don’t see why I should keep engaging.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Unless you're getting paid for your commute, you're just giving your employer free productivity. I would recommend doing literally anything else with that time. Read a book, maybe.

Everywhere I've worked as a programmer you're just paid to do your job. If you get some of it done on your commute what difference does it make?

If you can't do your job in your 8 hours then you're either not good enough or the requirements are too much and the company should change processes and hire.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Everything since ~2016 reads like a Dr. Evil plot! I swear it feels like the world is getting dumber around me.

100% agreed. You've reminded me of when I first watched Idiocracy in 2006. At the time, I delighted in the comedic, sophomoreish, and seemingly ridiculous take on a possible trajectory of humanity. But now much of it is actually coming to pass. It's sad. P.s. As a sidenote, apparently I love all of Mike Judge's productions, which also includes Office Space, and Beavis and Butthead.

He also made Silicon Valley.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #457

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I work at a company with over 700 employees. And there are tons of use cases where a simple CRUD app is sufficient. Or where glue code needs to be written / changed for legacy systems. Or where an OS system like Camunda is deployed and needs to be configured, workflows developed, etc The reality of companies out there is much simpler than the challenges of a startup that needs to build systems that are state of the a…

Fair enough. There are valid use cases for vibe coding scripts and simple CRUD apps, which current AI tools are fairly competent at producing. The thing is that those don't typically take weeks and months to build with conventional tooling. And I find it hard to believe that all you're doing is this type of integration work. But I suppose there are companies that need such roles. > There are companies out there that…

> I do think that this cowboy coding approach is doing these companies a disservice, especially where tech is not their main product. It's only creating more operational risk

I absolutely agree with you! Alas, management in those companies (I have worked for some) does not understand the necessity of solid software engineering work. It’s way above their head. That’s why they have systems that constantly cause problems. And then expensive consultants are called in to fix symptoms, not solve root causes. Shocking to see that in lots of otherwise very successful companies.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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post #550

There’s a lot of talk about Claude Code in here, and I agree it’s a great agentic coding tool. One of the benefits of Cursor & Windsurf is/was the ease for smaller companies to setup Team accounts and have control over spend. Claude Code I think misses this. You can get an enterprise account if you commit to over, what.. 70 seats annually? If you’re an individual you can get Max 5x/20x .. But for smaller companies, I…

Enterprise is where you make the money. I’m sure they will have something soon.

For now, i can just piggybacking on bedrock or vertex which is peanuts comparing to production cost.

Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google

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Curious - how did moving from iTerm2 to Ghostty help? I currently use iTerm2 and have never used Claude Code

Ghostty is gpu accelerated. It’s super fast, and tmux in it is a joy to use. That combined with NeoVim gives me an increadibly smooth dev experience in the terminal, something I had never have with iTerm2 and emacs.

iTerm is also GPU accelerated.
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