IMO other than the Microsoft IP issue, I think the biggest thing that has shifted since this acquisition was first in the works is Claude Code has absolutely exploded. Forking an IDE and all the expense that comes with that feels like a waste of effort, considering the number of free/open source CLI agentic tools that are out there. Let's review the current state of things: - Terminal CLI agents are several orders of…
OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google
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Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google
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Re productivity gains, CC allows me to code during my commute time. Even on a crowded bus/train I can get real work done just with my phone.
How do you use Claude Code via your phone?
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Pretty easy to hit $100 an hour using Opus on API credits. The model providers are heavily subsidized, the datacenters appear to be too. If you look at the Coreweave stuff and the private datacenters it starts looking like the telecom bubble. Even Meta is looking to finance datacenter expansion - https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-seeks-29-billion-priva... The reason they are talking about building new nuclear pow…
Why “no capitalism required”? Competition of this kind is only possible with capitalism.
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Isn't there not some contractual agreement between the VCs and the founders? (I understand that a non-compete might not apply [in CA], but taking VC money is a little different that simply getting hired). Were I a Windsurf investor, I'd be pissed right now and calling my lawyer.
the founder is on a vesting schedule set with the vc. walking away forfeits his ownership in the company (not sure of the specifics of this weird deal, but this is true in 99% of situations) which returns his ownership to the VCs either directly or functionally. the only reason he'd walk away is because he thinks other opportunities are higher EV. if he believes this, a) the investors investment is likely worth virtu…
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Cursor's tab completion model is legitimately fantastic and for many people is worth the entire $20 subscription. Lint fixes or syntax-level refactors are guessed and executed instantly with TAB with close to 100% accuracy. This is their final moat IMO, if Copilot manages to bring their tab completion up to near parity, very little reason to use Cursor.
https://forum.cursor.com/t/i-made-59-699-lines-of-agent-edit... > It's quite interesting how little the Cursor power users use tab. Majority of the posts are some insane number of agent edits and close to (or exactly) 0 tabs.
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what?? sonnet/opus is way better than deepseek, how can you compare that to deepseek also you probably talking about distilled deepseek model
I haven't tried deepseek but I've seen claude do crazy things if you are at the correct random.seed
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#547I went from Emacs to VS Code, then to Cursor, next to Claude Code, which is so good that I feel like I am having half a dozen junior devs at my fingertips, 24/7. Since Claude Code is cli based, I reviewed my cli toolset: Migrated from iTerm2 to Ghostty and Tmux, from Cursor to NeoVim (my God is it good!). Just had a 14h workday with this tooling. It’s so good that I complete the work of weeks and months within days!…
When generating code that is often wrong and needing to review it, and IDE is demonstrably better, this isn't an argument
they don't review files anymore though.
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Non competes aren’t enforceable in California but the company owns the IP so I’m curious about this license loophole they are using.
Is there any IP that's actually valuable without the team ? I sincerely doubt it.
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Not the OP but this is smth I've vibecoded using cursor: https://bestphoto.ai/ MRR ~$150. It basically started as a clone of my other site: https://aieasypic.com (MRR 2.5k, 5-8k/mo rev) since I was having trouble keeping code context in mind and claude was pretty bad at doing full features with the tech stack I used for that site(Django BE, NextJS FE) making adding new features a pain, so I completely switched to a s…
Those are exactly the kind of AI slop products I would expect to be vibe coded. You've created yet another wrapper around LLM APIs where the business model is charging a premium over existing services. Your revenue depends on the ignorance of customers to not realize they can get the same or better service for cheaper from companies that actually do the hard work. I bet SEO hacking is really important to you. It's ir…
There are lots of people that only use LLMs in whatever UI the model companies are providing. I have colleagues that will never venture outside the ChatGPT website, even though with some effort they could make their tooling richer by using the API and building some wrapper or UI for it.
Re: OpenAI’s Windsurf deal is off, and Windsurf’s CEO is going to Google
#550Claude Code I think misses this. You can get an enterprise account if you commit to over, what.. 70 seats annually?
If you’re an individual you can get Max 5x/20x ..
But for smaller companies, I don’t think they are addressing that space. Am I wrong? Are there any Agentic tools like Claude Code that can provide a fixed cost per user?