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Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Pocket is a bit like Pinterest: It’s actually a joy to use, but it has a significant number of haters because it’s forced on people who don’t want it.

This is why, as a non-user, I’m celebrating its death for the simple reason that it won’t be integrated in Firefox anymore.

Mozilla completely did this to themselves.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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I wish I could just buy out Mozilla outright so that they could you know, focus on building a browser. Alas, my wallets nowhere near big enough to do so. Leave all the business ventures to a completely different (named too) org. I grow tired of them starting something great and then stopping because they've wasted funds. Like oxidizing Firefox I was really excited for. Sadly they stopped while they had broken amazing…

You would buy them out so they could focus 100% of their time to an endeavor that doesn't bring in any money except from a ludicrously generous gift from Google that might be illegal? Like I get it, I wish they could just be a browser company too but all their other side ventures are desperate attempts to diversify their revenue. They don't have a billion dollar ad business obviate their need to actually be a busines…

Vivaldi seems to be doing ok and they only focus on a free browser. Brave seems to be doing well too, even if some of what they're doing is controversial. I admire them for at least taking a shot.

I don't necessarily fault Mozilla for trying to diversify revenue. The problem is when they neglect the browser to work on silly projects like Pocket, VPN's, mail relay, etc. and not even do a good job on those either. All of them were bolted on via acquisition or partnership, felt like an afterthought, and didn't provide anything that wasn't already easily accessible.

The organization doesn't execute well at any level and hasn't for a long time. They only exist because of Google and the remaining holdout users who feel obligated to use a sub-par, non-Chromium browser. I'm finally off that bandwagon. For the first time in over 20 years, I don't even have Mozilla's browser installed on my system.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Can someone explain what this means? >Focusing on what powers better browsing We acquired Fakespot in 2023 to help people navigate unreliable product reviews using AI and privacy-first tech. While the idea resonated, it didn’t fit a model we could sustain. Pocket has helped millions save articles and discover stories worth reading. But the way people save and consume content on the web has evolved, Did Fakespot own p…

Mozilla owns Fakespot. Fakepost is pretty unreliable and assigning a score to something so difficult to rank isn't a great model.

Online product reviews are all fake. That's close enougth to the truth that you really don't need Fakespot.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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post #668

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I have another theory, actually. I'm also a very old user, since the first days of the service, and I don't know how many saves I have it inside (will see when my export arrives). The latest iteration's search was abysmal , and I normally refrain from using strong words. It failed to find exact matches from titles, the words or excerpts I know that exist in the article I'm searching for, and as a result, it became a…

I’m curious: with that many saves, what were you main reasons for using Pocket? Did you glean info at scale or is it just the case that you saved so much, read some subset, and it grew over time?

The initial idea was nice: do not lose what you want to read later (the list), keep a list of what you read (archive). Then it became better with “Permanent copies”: never lose content you want to read again later.

That number is a combination of all three, plus more than a decade of active use.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Sad to see Fakespot shutdown after purchase. I rely on Fakespot for a sort of ground-truth when navigating Amazon. When faced with 20 similar items, all having thousands of faked review scores, it was helpful to get the A-F rating. While these tools didn't really need to live in the browser, by purchasing and then killing them, they've done the web a disservice.

"Fakespot's analysis of online shopping reviews didn't fit a model we could sustain"

I feel like you figure that out before you purchase the largest tool for analyzing and detecting fake product reviews.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Mozilla is more occupied this days paying multi milionary bonus to its executives and begging users for money they waste on useless projects. Mozilla must die, so Firefox can live.

mozilla has been broken for a long time. spiritually and intellectually, brave is the successor

Brave is adware, in what way is it the spiritual successor to Firefox?

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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post #276

I have been using Pocket + p2k for long articles that I prefer to read on Kindle. There are several issues with the setup, but this works well enough for most articles that I have sticked to it over the years. Looks like I have to find an alternative now.

I've been using wallabag for a while, switched to Pocket for this exact reason. Maybe switching back is the answer to this? Looked around a bit, someone seems to have thought about this already.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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That's indeed the bane of this category of apps. You save it but don't ever go back. Yet we all intuitively want to use it as we can never allocate the right mental space at the right time. Our brain usually are in the browsing mode when we are on social, and needs a slightly different mindset when we are ready to dive into a long read. I believe there are path forward with this category of apps though. Capturing is…

> You save it but don't ever go back. I have a thing which picks 10 random unread "old-ish" links from Pocket (via my local DB) and emails them to me. (Used to be an iOS Shortcut but Pocket's API got in the way and I turned it into Go on my server instead.) Quite handy for surfacing things you've forgotten about but the linkrot in older saves means it's sadly often useless.

Cool. I'm actually planning to add shortcuts to DM as well. I'm not a heavy user but am becoming a fan...
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