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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by medvezhenok »

pharmakom wrote: post #429
sjaak wrote: post #131

What happens to us when AI becomes better than us at every mental task? Ignoring the economic factors, what does that mean for our self worth? If we know it’s easier to ask a machine to do it, will we stop doing everything? Can we reframe our purpose and just be content living? (Above quote from: https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1639368422763970562 )

We will become a leisure society. Honestly that sounds great to me.

Last time that technological revolution threatened this many people's livelihoods we got rise of Hitler and WWII (propelled by the petite-bourgeoisie), and I imagine that this time we won't get away without a conflict of a large caliber either (fighting over the distribution of the AI spoils)

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by nbzso »

falsaberN1 wrote: post #638
nbzso wrote: post #250

I do work in tech. Almost 25 years. As a traditionally trained artist, my advantage over the years always was the knowledge of composition, color and my drawing skills when producing the visual part of the products. I focused early in my company (2005) on UX and UCD processes, and with the time realized that people don't care about craftsmanship or maximizing the quality. We are approaching a time of generative desig…

"Trained on stolen data" This is emotionally charged wording with a clear confrontational bias and a dark intent to discredit. As someone with over 30 years of experience with art and artists, do you realize how many influences are present in any given artist? Do you know how many artists use "reference images" heavily? Do you know how many artists trace images (specially in 3D modeling)? By your logic, every piece o…

Sorry, the idea that artists are synthesizers of the past art is ludicrous. The human is not the machine. There are a billion factors for interpretation in creating a personal style. The A.I. image generators are just machines which produce average from all previous artists. They have no personality or agency (yet).

> Stable Diffusion trained its algorithm on data sets collected by the German nonprofit LAION, which has collected billions of captioned images from art shopping sites and websites such as Pinterest.

And it has done so without consent, causing artists and advocates to raise copyright concerns.

https://bit.ly/3FU4OSa

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by MildlySerious »

runnerup wrote: post #610
MildlySerious wrote: post #417

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> People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art. When the Bing image creator released a couple of days ago, I used ChatGPT to craft a prompt for it. > In one sentence describe the art style of impressionism Then used that in my prompt for the creator:…

The point is you knew to use "impressionist" as a concept. ChatGPT probably wouldn't have helped you with that kernel. It's not clear whether GPT added any value at all in your use case as you just replaced "impressionist" with "{synonym of impressionist}". How would you repeat this for: > okinawa street on a rainy night, in the style of fauvism > okinawa street on a rainy night, in the style of constructivism > okin…

> The point is you knew to use "impressionist" as a concept.

I could have surfaced, or learned about it 20 seconds earlier from a different ChatGPT conversation (throwing vaguely related questions at GPT[1]), or something as old fashioned as a search engine. Maybe turning up the "novel" kernels of information that you won't get from LLMs without knowing to ask will be its own thing in the future. A few Pinterests for prompts are already out there if I'm not mistaken.

Great choice of art styles, by the way!

[1] https://sharegpt.com/c/jnpoQRv

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by MildlySerious »

tkiolp4 wrote: post #544
MildlySerious wrote: post #417

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> People with a good understanding of different styles of art and framing/angles/etc should be able to create the "right" prompts for a customer much much faster and get better results than people who don't know art. When the Bing image creator released a couple of days ago, I used ChatGPT to craft a prompt for it. > In one sentence describe the art style of impressionism Then used that in my prompt for the creator:…

Couldn’t you just have prompted: > okinawa street on a rainy night. Impressionism style

If I just wanted results, I'm sure I could have. I just thought it was interesting to see if this more abstract description would map to results that would be considered impressionism.

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Post by tekknik »

anonyfox wrote: post #623
jrochkind1 wrote: post #525

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> The only „solution“ that still avoids realizing the problem is to try to escape into gated communities and shoot those plebs coming too close, ideally robots so no human is at fault conveniently. Or what useful is having that mercedes when most others want to steal or at least damage it? You say this like it shows how it's not a plausible outcome or shows the error of this path, but unfortunately that's exactly the…

The great thing about fascism (the extreme form of conservativsm when going more rightwing) is that it’s always a matter of in-group vs out-group, THE stereotype of thinking of the right-wingers. Like, we have the true values and they are immoral. This thinking naturally Leads of subselects within the in-group that are even more true than the others… and it gets recursively smaller going towards fascism. So ultimatel…

> The great thing about fascism (the extreme form of conservativsm when going more rightwing)

Stopped reading after you asserted that fascism is a right only attribute.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by OOPMan »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #269
thorncorona wrote: post #191

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> 1. Accept that professions come and go. 2. Expect jobs to disappear every decade or so and plan accordingly. 3. Look forward to an awesome new job after your current one is made obsolete. That goes for all of us. What can we do? Hope to save enough to not go into more debt for a second degree? Hope that second degree isn’t obsoleted either? As AI becomes more advanced the minimum education and likely IQ required to…

> What are we gonna do about the ever increasing N+1% of people who won’t be cost effective versus an AI? Their quality of life will increase because of all the cheap stuff we can make with ai and robots. They will coexist and compete with robots. Upward mobility should be better, given the access to advanced technology. Worst case scenario, they can all band together outside of the advanced civilisation, grow their…

Right...we make stuff cheaper than ever before...but because all these people don't have jobs they can't afford it anyway...

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by tekknik »

namaria wrote: post #390
roenxi wrote: post #308

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And yet if we take a snapshot literally right now: Guido van Rossum - Microsoft Distinguished Engineer Bjarne Stroustrup - professor of Computer Science at Columbia University (City of New York) Linus Torvalds - Nationality American/US since 2010 (should I write GNU/American/US? Someone educate me). Erlang - I don't know anything about Erlang so I've got nothing to say. Nokia - brutally ejected from the market by the…

"Europe is irrelevant" is such a weird take for a country built by Europeans, populated by Europeans, using European legal system, European language, etc etc.

Yet we don’t call ourselves European, perhaps because of a divorce in somewhat recent history.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by tekknik »

anonyfox wrote: post #363
danjac wrote: post #353

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Europe (mostly, at least) does have a unified market on paper, but not culturally, which makes marketing, localization etc. harder - a commercial that sells well to Germans might go down like a lead balloon in Spain. The biggest advantage I've seen in the US has been the VC ecosystem. For all we deride VCs - and sometimes (particularly given events over the past few weeks) with very good reason, the money spigot is j…

Money as a forcing function seems to come to an end, also I really am laughing right now how the US tries to suppress TikTok so it doesn’t overtake all these social media companies seemingly unable to compete :-)

Your takeaway from the news around TikTok is the US is scared to compete?

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Post by HervalFreire »

juvvel wrote: post #665
HervalFreire wrote: post #629

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Not everything will be replaced, but you can extrapolate that much of what we do will be replaced. The thing that is harder to replace is the versatility of the human form. Manual labor can't fully be replaced because robotics have yet to catch up. >there's no need to reject the inherent value of humanity There's no fundamental rejection here. Capitalism simply selects the most efficient methodology. If humans arent…

Capitalism and its value system is subjective, too. It's not set in stone. I believe we can still steer away from profit as the sole driver of, well, everything, if we want to.

It's possible. But unlikely.

Historically speaking, from crypto to AI, the market constantly evolves towards the next most profitable thing.

Only regulatory systems like the government has the tendency to temper such things (see the Fed and rising interest rates). However do note that capitalist entities have infiltrated the government and have huge sway over it's regulatory policies meaning that anti-business regulatory policies are unlikely to occur.

All of this just means that my conclusions are most likely going to play out. Barring some event that will cause intense negative public reaction.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by tekknik »

anonyfox wrote: post #466
jacquesm wrote: post #457

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Sorry? You think the American economy is so broken that people 'can't afford stuff' anymore? That there is an absurdly increasing wealth gap is a fact, but that doesn't mean that - for the time being - US households as consumers are still spending lots of money. And if you're in the B2B side of the market then it's even easier.

I said dimishing, not gone already. A shrinking middle class is a real problem, leading to all kinds of issues, like reduced spending power - something that until recently was hidden by people going into debt massively… which now turns into even more problems soon. All the while you can now do stuff in English all over europe increasingly well and legislations are getting normalized between countries, ignoring the od…

This comment can be read as you being happy for the demise of the US. It’s wonderful to see how many actual allies we have, who the minute we trip up they’re immediately on scene saying “i told you so” and ready to pick the bones.
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