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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by jay_kyburz »

spoiler wrote: post #258
jay_kyburz wrote: post #175

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You are wrong, I have worked for many years as an artists and level builder in video games. Bioshock is the most famous game, and Void Bastards the most recent.

Could you instead use AI to reduce drudgery in your work, or to iterate faster between ideas until you settle on a final peace? What if you have something in mind that is hard to prompt for, or the tool just refuses to generate what you had in mind? I would try to lean into it as a tool to speed up some of the tedium, instead of fear it, if possible

I'm not in the camp that fears it, I think it will be an awesome tool and I can't wait to use it in my next game. I've been playing with Midjourny a lot already, but have been watching Stable Diffusion and the control net stuff closely as well.

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Post by jokethrowaway »

anonyfox wrote: post #252
peyton wrote: post #224

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You’re taking a central planner’s view of a decentralized system. You can’t say “here’s a problem; let’s just make it go away.” We are going to print so much money. I don’t see how bumping up capital gains taxes are going to change anything. People will plow extra help into speculative bubbles. Casino thesis.

How about striding for one of the core societal values that make many advanced democraties (including the European nordics) so much better/happier than the US? It’s called Equality. Insert strong progressive taxes, especially on wealth, and use it to fund a strong public sector, so _everyone_ has as access to basic goods and services for free, like education/health/transport/… . I think you vastly underestimate how m…

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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by vasco »

kodah wrote: post #116
rafaelero wrote: post #112

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> AI won't take a thought workers job. I don't understand how you can hold this position considering not only where we are but also the rate of progress in AI. It has been taking thought workers job and it will increasingly do so in the future until the surplus cognitive workers offer is just so minimal that it's not worth to automate it.

What jobs have been totally replaced thus far?

If performing a job is even just 10% faster, you can fire 1 person out of a team of 10 (or need to hire in the first place). This should be obvious.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by xdennis »

muyuu wrote: post #55
juujian wrote: post #43

From all I have learned about ChatGPT coding copilots, this is going to be bleak. Similar art styles. No sudden surprises. Eerily familiar characters. I don't like the look of this. More reason to cherish hand-drawn/hand-animated (?) unique works though.

Generally speaking, whatever output people can do, generative AI can do to the point you wouldn't be able to tell it apart.

Except for the hands.

If you're familiar with the Rick and Morty "what is my purpose" meme ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa9MpLXuLs0 ), it will essentially be the same for humanity in the future.

Humanity: "What is my purpose?"

Robot: "You draw the hands."

Humanity, with existential dread: "Oh my god..."

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by bbor »

borissk wrote: post #234
dukeofdoom wrote: post #220

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Not really, have a closer look at anything outside. The Sun and rain and weather constantly erode the condition of human creations. Try fixing some roads and bridges to start with. They're in terrible shape in most of the US. Any city could probably employ 10 times as many gardeners to take care of the plants and build nicer things. Elderly need taking care of, and young people teaching. Houses need cleaning. Shoes n…

What are you talking about? Stop the traffic on a road to fix it without local administration permission? Do you think getting such permission is easy? How are you going to pay for the materials to do the repairs? Do you think it's easy to get a job as a gardener?

I think you need to read other’s thoughts more charitably. I doubt he was suggesting bored artists and call center workers grab a hard hat and pick a road. The point is that AI makes it easier for humans to do work, and there’s an endless amount of work we as a society want done. Avandon capitalist frameworks of wages/capital/“deserved poverty” for a minute, and just consider a group of humans and a pile of tasks that need to be done.

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Post by dsego »

paweladamczuk wrote: post #214
rakejake wrote: post #155

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Amen. AI will make us all "managers" of some sort. Goodbye to getting in flow state and trying to build something yourself, and say hello to a gazillion meetings from morning until evening figuring out what to build and what prompt to feed to the AI. AI is going to make our bullshit jobs even shittier.

Instead of grinding away over a piece of code, I will get to talk to people more? Doesn't sound like such a bad deal to me. I get your point, of course. I just think communication can be like a craft, challenging and rewarding. I try to frame things positively, it helps me stay motivated at work.

> Instead of grinding away over a piece of code

crafting

> get to talk to people more

about KPIs and OKRs

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by steveshurley44 »

bruce511 wrote: post #209
kodah wrote: post #105

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AI won't take a thought workers job. It just sucks the life out of it. Like the person who wrote this post, I make bespoke software. I tinker, I experiment, and I produce high quality results in reasonable timelines. Executives could not give a shit about that, except that those qualities in me are a good signal that I am dependable. Now, if most companies allow AI bottom performers will speed up and their quality wi…

>> The result will be that mediocrity takes over because the AI will be in charge of the boilerplate, which is often the foundation for the rest of your code. Your take is interesting, but I'll provide an alternate point of view from my experience. I have spent my career working in a low-code environment. There's a boiler plate framework into which people add code. Since most of all programs are similar (data in, dat…

SAP?

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Post by fintechie »

nbzso wrote: post #250

I do work in tech. Almost 25 years. As a traditionally trained artist, my advantage over the years always was the knowledge of composition, color and my drawing skills when producing the visual part of the products. I focused early in my company (2005) on UX and UCD processes, and with the time realized that people don't care about craftsmanship or maximizing the quality. We are approaching a time of generative desig…

> A.I. art is not art.

IMO you can certainly output art, code, etc from AIs. AI as a new kind of productivity tool, a very powerful one.

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Post by jokethrowaway »

thorncorona wrote: post #191
nomilk wrote: post #179

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> This is exactly the type of conversation we need to have as a society. Jobs have been disappearing at a high rate for at least a couple of generations now, and have steadily been replaced with new ones, often high paying ones. We can't control which jobs are in high, low, and no demand, so we're best off swimming with the current, whichever way it flows. 1. Accept that professions come and go. 2. Expect jobs to dis…

> 1. Accept that professions come and go. 2. Expect jobs to disappear every decade or so and plan accordingly. 3. Look forward to an awesome new job after your current one is made obsolete. That goes for all of us. What can we do? Hope to save enough to not go into more debt for a second degree? Hope that second degree isn’t obsoleted either? As AI becomes more advanced the minimum education and likely IQ required to…

> What are we gonna do about the ever increasing N+1% of people who won’t be cost effective versus an AI?

Their quality of life will increase because of all the cheap stuff we can make with ai and robots. They will coexist and compete with robots. Upward mobility should be better, given the access to advanced technology.

Worst case scenario, they can all band together outside of the advanced civilisation, grow their food and live a separate life.

There is no need to make high iq people to pay for low iq to live in a high iq society.

We're already seeing a divide of cities for rich people and cities for poor people. It will just be more pronounced.

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Post by jayd16 »

vasco wrote: post #263
kodah wrote: post #116

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What jobs have been totally replaced thus far?

If performing a job is even just 10% faster, you can fire 1 person out of a team of 10 (or need to hire in the first place). This should be obvious.

First, this argument applies to everything from WFH adding efficiency to computers themselves being faster than ink and paper.

But that's not how the economics works out. The business can simply choose to sell 10% more content.

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