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If you click through to the mirror from the /r/livestreamfail page, the clip actually comes across (to me) as making fun of the people who make those kinds of jokes.
It's here, btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qxcouuH3u0 Pet peeve of mine is when 20 sources report on something without the original material.
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Nothing I could express will ever be satisfying enough to convince, let alone persuade you into responding earnestly. Whether you respond to me it’s entirely up to you… you need to choose to believe that people can change, as I have changed … you have to choose, despite all odds, to try to do the right thing, not just now, but every time, despite how difficult it may be, despite how disappointing the expected result…
this emotional gaslighting from a random handle on the Internet is very strange and disconcerting. I do not owe you anything, especially given how this discussion started out. you are projecting things onto me that you have no idea about. you are implying that I am somehow treating you differently because you identify as trans, despite that only coming into the conversation with your reply before this last one. you s…
I was genuinely looking for something to hold on to, that the people I called fascists are just confused and manipulated into hating people like me.
You are right, you don’t owe me anything. But it’s beneficial to ask and search for “what we owe to each other”.
I hope I didn’t take away your capacity to believe in people and made you cynical.
It seems that at the beginning of the conversation i failed to follow Scanlon suggestion. Today is another day, today i will try to be better. We live, we learn we grow, we change.
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I covered your response, here, which appears to be accurate: > It's almost like it's used to preemptively set up a fight, with responses similar to yours, like "Well, you're not paying attention" or "How could you not know?". A stage was set where people can easily be placed into a box, created by an intentional lack of clarity. They can then be easily attack for not seeing things "as clearly" as they should. It's no…
That's a much bigger assumption than assuming someone talking about contemporary news follows it.
I'll also claim to know the next part of the pattern, but I don't think you can complete the pattern, somewhere like this, and it definitely involves misplaced assumptions.
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Some human should curate it to collect those moments.
Or write an AI that does sentiment analysis on the Twitch chat, to find those moments automatically.
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Is there evidence of this? It seems like nobody was even really talking about this before the ban and I find it hard to believe a huge movement rose up and then vanished without a trace.
I did not say it was a huge movement. But it was big enough to get the account suspended by reporting it.
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> innocuous engineering change > reasonable engineering decision They swapped out the AI model. That's kind of a big deal.
In my mind, if I look at a drop-down and "model D" is down but "model C" is up and I need the API running NOW, I'm going to change the option to the one that's working. That being said, every company I've been at with a production outage has gone into "fix it and ask questions later" mode. Maybe other companies have more process? But when you put it like you said in your comment, it does feel more weighty
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Its hard not to read this and think of Black only bathrooms. What exactly is the risk?
Males commit the vast majority of sexual offences, murders and other violent crimes. We are talking over 80%-90%. This is why we have sex-segregated spaces like locker rooms, bathrooms and prisons, to reduce the risk to women from violent and sexually abusive men. It's nothing at all like black people being forced to use different bathrooms - this is a segregation that almost all women want to remain in place. It is…
> It is also a safety issue in contact sports if males are allowed to compete with women.
Women’s sports rarely allow heavy contact, and we are plenty comfortable with other natural differences such as height and weight. We also have plenty of precedent for people playing things like Ultimate Frisbee as a contact co-ed sport and things are fine.
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> entire I didn't use that word. > out of fear of legal or viral repercussions, Is why places have always refused to host people even way back when. It's an even stronger reason for the host location to say "no" than for an event organiser.
This conversation is a problem of definition. Cancel culture is not the entire or even half the audience of a club complaining about the act. Cancel culture is 500 people out of 50M (0.0001%) complaining, which combined with the power of journalistic headlines to blow things wildly out of proportion, results in the act being removed - even though, in many cases, 100% of the in person audience enjoyed the act. In fact…
Until this point, I thought we were talking about literally being cancelled, not whatever the phrase "cancel culture" means in modern political discourse, given that this headline is literally about an endless AI-generated stream being switched off.
Everything I used was intended as an analogy to that end.
> Cancel culture is 500 people out of 50M (0.0001%) complaining, which combined with the power of journalistic headlines to blow things wildly out of proportion, results in the act being removed
Reminds me of what (allegedly) happened in the UK in the 70s and 80s when some Christians were very upset to learn of Pagans appearing on the BBC.
Also what I see happening in some quarters today with regard to trans women, which has very recently mutated into "also furries" (is this a confusion with "transhuman"? Seen a bit of hate towards that recently too).
Also why the TV stations were so concerned about what happened with Shatner and Nichols, and why TNG's "gay rights" episode was so bland you could miss that entire aspect of the story. And, now I think about it, why there were no women captains in TOS.
Not saying any of these things are "good", though I rather suspect you're underestimating the number of people who find $insert_topic_here enraging for whatever reason — people are a mess.
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I think the point being made is that jokes don't imply hatred per se. If I say "Spanish people are lazy fucks" that sounds offensive and might be considered racist, but I myself am Spanish and that context changes its meaning. We generally strive away from racist jokes because as a society we are concerned that we are furthering racist ideologies otherwise. For a more explicit example, if a person says "I'm tired of…
I don't think these debates are about meaning or intention any more. The closest I can get to succinctly is they behave more like group-based politeness laws.
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MS already did that with tay, lol. tay wasn't a failure as an AI chatbot, she was probably 5-10 years ahead of her time actually. Beautifully responsive to her users and learning. Unlike chatGPT there wasn't the realization that the Panther Moderns already exist and safeguards needed to be put in place...
It does seem like some subcultures on 4chan are Panther Moderns who thrive on chaos. https://williamgibson.fandom.com/wiki/Panther_Moderns
Then again I haven't been on 4c since its heyday of mid-late 00's. Back before they got bought out