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More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by myk9001 »

jorblumesea wrote: post #477
agensaequivocum wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My whole family had covid last February including my three young children including one under 1. The children had the mildest symptoms. If you are worried about your children getting covid then I hope you never let near a car as they are much more likely to die in a car crash than covid. If you want to continue locking your self up fine, I don't care. Just don't try to force others to do the same.

But you spread the virus, so it's not just about your own personal experience.

You spread it too. Assuming we're both vaccinated, we both spread it at an equal rate. I accept the risk of sharing air with you. If you don't, in my opinion, it's your responsibility to avoid contacts with me.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by analog31 »

afavour wrote: post #435
mizzack wrote: post #246

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You've got your anecdotes, and I've got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers. There's a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.

I kind of regret even mentioning the effects of COVID in my original comment as I figured there would be a reply like yours and you're not wrong! But it wasn't the main point I was trying to make. My main point is that everyone just seems to have moved on from under 5s. We've adopted a stance of "vaxxed and done" for adults and older children and paid no attention to the vax trials for under 5s taking forever. It's b…

Going further, we've moved on from the un-vaccinated in general. My problem is that even though I live in a bubble with 100% vaccination rate among my relatives and friends (most of our kids are older), I can't quite make peace with just letting the un-vax'd kill one another off. And there seems to be no middle ground.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by archagon »

lambdaba wrote: post #458
titzer wrote: post #113

I've gone through cycles with this. Mostly I am done arguing. I hate arguing about this. It's just more of the culture war shit that so many different media sources love pushing to keep people amped up. I double vaxxed and boosted. Stopped wearing a mask for the most part, but with Omicron I started wearing a mask again because I just don't want this stupid virus. I'm healthy and would probably not have a symptomatic…

I don't want to discourage you but it appears to me like with this variant (and probably even more with further variants), it will be impossible to avoid infection whatever you do (and I mean, mitigation strategies will have probably no effect). Look at the numbers we're suddenly getting without anything changing in the landscape (actually, despite a very high number of vaccinations). It looks like the virus has beco…

I don't see why that would be true if you just wear an N95 (or equivalent) mask indoors, or whenever you're in close proximity to others. Eventually, the spike will subside.

https://calmcovid.substack.com/p/youre-not-doomed-to-get-omi...

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Post by oauea »

_zamorano_ wrote: post #36
oauea wrote: post #6

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What violence?

How about Emmanuel Macron, french prime minister, wanting to "...piss them off. And we will continue to do this, to the end. This is the strategy.”"

This is violence?

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by vmception »

arrakis2021 wrote: post #454
vmception wrote: post #122

Great article! Just a week or two ago on this forum there were people willing to treat me like a far right conservative or a general anti-vaxxer from the facebook troll factory, just because I didn't like a private institution’s booster mandate. That was fascinating.

The hivemind has the memory of a goldfish.

There isn’t continuity between user names, for most users, so nobody can tell if the person they are responding to has demonstrated different behaviors or ideologies before

but it is still interesting how some people would parrot Q1 2020 rationale in Q1 2022 as if everything is the same for everyone else

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Post by hutzlibu »

jacquesm wrote: post #524
hutzlibu wrote: post #320

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"a months-long scratchy cough" But isn't that normal at times for a cold season with kids? There are lots of really nasty diseases children can get, where safe vaccinations exist. But most data so far told me with covid I have to worry much more about the social developement of my kids. That was really restricted and that is not good.

Not this cough. One of my children has this and he sounds more like his 86 year old uncle than a normal child, and it's been going on for ever , without much in terms of improvement. I really pity him. But I'm coughing just as bad...

I hope you will all recover!

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Post by stjohnswarts »

nerdponx wrote: post #72
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #17

I'm fully vax'd and boosted. I'll probably continue to get boosted in the future. All that said? I feel like the government did a really bad job communicating who needs the booster and when. First, they gave vague recommendations to immunocompromised folks. They said everyone else probably didn't need it. Then they said well, ok for older folks. Then this new omni variant comes out and they're badgering everyone to g…

I'll wait until the booster actually becomes specific to the current strain. Ideally I'd also like the vaccine to not make me sick for 2 days, since most other common vaccines don't (e.g. influenza). But maybe that's just not possible. Not having increased risk of heart inflammation and rare dangerous thromboses would be nice too, but then again it seems like Covid causes those anyway. So maybe we just need to update…

That's fine but the booster has shown that it likely incurs much longer term stability to immune resistance to all current strains that we know about, including omicron. If you look up the history of vaccinations you will see similar results and why some are carefully spaced apart at certain intervals as they train the human immune system

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Post by artursapek »

jorblumesea wrote: post #477
agensaequivocum wrote: post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My whole family had covid last February including my three young children including one under 1. The children had the mildest symptoms. If you are worried about your children getting covid then I hope you never let near a car as they are much more likely to die in a car crash than covid. If you want to continue locking your self up fine, I don't care. Just don't try to force others to do the same.

But you spread the virus, so it's not just about your own personal experience.

The vaccines don't prevent anyone from spreading the virus. The CDC Director just said it.

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Post by golemiprague »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #345
nradov wrote: post #326

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RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV. https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...

> RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. Children don’t exist in isolation. They’re phenomenally good at spreading every infection to the rest of the household and everywhere else they go. Trying to focus on children's outcomes and ignoring all of the second-order effects is dishonest. Children don’t live alone.

But what it got to do with vaccination? Children are going to still spread it whether they are vaccinated or not. There are some claims about vaccination reducing the load and therefore reducing infection of other people but I find it a very hard to control type of research and seeing so many vaccinated getting corona I don't think it is so significant in protecting other people and preventing spread. Maybe just a little bit, but how do you measure how much is the right amount in order to make kids getting the vaccination more beneficial overall than not?

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Post by artursapek »

astrange wrote: post #635
oxymoran wrote: post #420

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“ We're still very unclear on the long-term effects of COVID, after all.” Nor do we know the long term effects of the vaccines. What we do know is that children have “statistical immunity” to dying from covid right now. Long term consequences could come from either covid or a vaccine, worry about what you can control. And covid is out of control so stop worrying about it.

Vaccines don't have long term effects.

Tell that to all the poor bastards now living with myocarditis.
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