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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#672

Since it's about to be hidden and unverifiable: Susan Wojcicki's "Freedom of Expression Award" (sponsored by Youtube) video currently has 227 upvotes, 56000 downvotes, and 185000 views. That's a 99.6% downvote ratio.

So in defense of keeping the dislikes pubic you are pointing to a video in which the dislike count is gamed by an Internet mob?

it wasn't gamed. she's obviously full of shit. why do you think everyone disliked it? they know that they don't stand for that. not everyone is stupid.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#674

Could someone make an external index and review site for yt videos? yt doing this is essentially yt putting their thumb on the scale, telling you that their product is good, and hiding anyone saying it's not. Generally, you must always have an outside party to review and judge a thing, not the thing itself. Probably yt would try every trademark and copyright legal attack in the book to take down any such site, but it…

> Could someone make an external index and review site for yt videos?

Yes, but gaining any sort of widespread traction would be really hard. The vast majority of YT viewers won’t have your chrome extension or whatever installed and without a critical mass of ratings on the long tail of low-view videos, people will lose interest fast.

Maybe if you seeded it with scraped vote counts now people would use it.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#676

This will make the site useless for finding new content and content creators. And what's the point of a Like count without a Dislike count? I'll just assume every video has as many, if not more, dislikes and will turn to other sources for finding quality content (if at all). And they might as well get rid of the comments section too cause that's where people will voice their opinions.. but maybe that's part of the pl…

Personally, I'd rather they keep the dislike count and dump the comments section.

I can probably count the number of times I've come across a comments section on YouTube that hasn't been a dumpster fire of idiocy on two hands (and I'm being generous).

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#677

This still seems like a huge disconnect to what people use youtube for vs. what google thinks it should be used for. Google wants youtube to be all network and brands making content. ie. a future version of what TV is now. What actual people want is creator made videos(diy/review/podcast videos and everything else that make youtube wonderful). This disconnect has been happening since google bought youtube and this re…

Abandon youtube, use Odysee and support web3 already. It's time to go back to a distributed web. https://odysee.com/

No one is going to use crypto for day to day anything, ever.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#679
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It's funny how differently people react to things. I look at this and think "there is nothing about Youtube that I find more useless than the dislike count, and I think this probably - on balance - a Good Thing." Everybody else seems to think it's an attack on the fundamental essence of all that is Right, Good, and Just in our universe. Weird... I never would have expected so much consternation about a dislike count.

Many people probably felt the same with Google Reader or any feature Google killed. If you read the comments in detail you will see that people describe how they used the dislike count. It's therefore not useless.

I didn't say it was useless, I said that I find it useless. Not the same thing at all.

It's not my intent here to comment on the utility of the feature in any universal sense - my comment is about the disparity between the reactions of different people. And it's just a casual observation, I'm not trying to argue for any thesis or anything here.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#680
They performed an experiment to see if removing the dislike button would mitigate brigade voting, or mob voting, especially against small creators. The results of their experiment, they say, is that it did address this issue.

That sounds like a great result!

The problem would be if they did not test any other side effect of removing the dislike button. For example, if the only thing they tested was whether it prevented mob downvoting in a small number of cases, and not whether it negatively affected the experience for a majority of users, the results of the experiment would not mean much. Based on the reaction, I am guessing this what they actually did.

(If they published their methodology and results somewhere, I apologize: I looked but did not find anything like this).

That's the problem with product research: it's often poorly designed, when it's not just designed to confirm a prior decision and back it up with some data.

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