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Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by falkaer »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #615
Entalpi wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel tried to ”design down” their uArch. Also, there is a TON of pro Mac users. If we define ’pro’ as getting paid for work done on Macs.. Not to mention M1 emulates x86 pretty darn well..

I do get it - you define pro as a guy at work running his backup application in a web browser, and the hipster at starbucks doing "graphic design." I define pro as "a workstation." The m1 does not emulate x86. You literally don't know what you're talking about. Which explains why you define a kid's toy as "pro." I get it - you're getting paid. So is the barista at the starbucks you work from. Kia might define their k…

The M1 (laptops) do emulate x86, and the M1 (chip) has a few x86 specific instructions to improve emulation performance

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by dsign »

I'm envious. I like the hardware a lot. But at the same time, I can't help but think "This has to be the most powerful computer ever built to run a browser and a terminal". I can't run PyTorch with acceleration, I can't use Numba, or CUDA. It seems it will soon be possible to use Blender, which for my artsy side is a plus, and I know that a few of the other design tools I use work on MacOS with varying degrees of acceleration, so there is that.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by sudhirj »

dsign wrote: post #672

I'm envious. I like the hardware a lot. But at the same time, I can't help but think "This has to be the most powerful computer ever built to run a browser and a terminal". I can't run PyTorch with acceleration, I can't use Numba, or CUDA. It seems it will soon be possible to use Blender, which for my artsy side is a plus, and I know that a few of the other design tools I use work on MacOS with varying degrees of acc…

These are not insurmountable, probably only a matter of time. Tensorflow has already been ported and optimised. https://blog.tensorflow.org/2020/11/accelerating-tensorflow-...

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by ramraj07 »

dsign wrote: post #672

I'm envious. I like the hardware a lot. But at the same time, I can't help but think "This has to be the most powerful computer ever built to run a browser and a terminal". I can't run PyTorch with acceleration, I can't use Numba, or CUDA. It seems it will soon be possible to use Blender, which for my artsy side is a plus, and I know that a few of the other design tools I use work on MacOS with varying degrees of acc…

It’s obviously not for you, yet, then? People who need PyTorch or numba or cuda are a vanishing minority even in the tech scene.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by Osiris »

Do we know of the M1 Max in the MacBook can sustain this level of performance without thermal throttling?

Mobile phones often have this issue where the benchmark looks gear until you run it for 15 minutes and the thermal throttling kicks in and kills the performance.

Thermal throttling is something I'd like to understand when comparing these against a desktop CPU.

For example, I just bought a 5900X and the Geekbench scores are very similar. My assumption is that the 5900X will be able to sustain full boost speeds indefinitely because of the additional cooling. I don't know if the MacBook can do the same.

If it can sustain mac performance without overheating inside the laptop form factor that'll definitely be a big win for Apple.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by zimpenfish »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #615
Entalpi wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel tried to ”design down” their uArch. Also, there is a TON of pro Mac users. If we define ’pro’ as getting paid for work done on Macs.. Not to mention M1 emulates x86 pretty darn well..

I do get it - you define pro as a guy at work running his backup application in a web browser, and the hipster at starbucks doing "graphic design." I define pro as "a workstation." The m1 does not emulate x86. You literally don't know what you're talking about. Which explains why you define a kid's toy as "pro." I get it - you're getting paid. So is the barista at the starbucks you work from. Kia might define their k…

> The m1 does not emulate x86. You literally don't know what you're talking about.

What is it doing when it runs x86_64 binaries then?

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by jb1991 »

Osiris wrote: post #677

Do we know of the M1 Max in the MacBook can sustain this level of performance without thermal throttling? Mobile phones often have this issue where the benchmark looks gear until you run it for 15 minutes and the thermal throttling kicks in and kills the performance. Thermal throttling is something I'd like to understand when comparing these against a desktop CPU. For example, I just bought a 5900X and the Geekbench…

They increased the thermal cooling area inside the laptop by something like 60% if I recall, it’s a whole new design for temperature control. But they were quick to add that most of the time the fans will still not be needed because the chip rarely gets warm enough to require that.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by adrianN »

aledthemathguy wrote: post #670
adrianN wrote: post #576

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> It might be a long time before it makes sense to buy a non-Apple laptop. ...if you only care about the things that Apple laptops are good at. Almost nobody needs a top-of-the-line laptop to do their tasks. Most things that people want to do with computers can be done on a machine that is five to ten years old without any trouble at all. For example I use a ThinkPad T460p, and while the geekbench scores for its proc…

surprised by your experience with an older laptop. I have both a 4 years old dell (forget it's name right now, for biz uses) and a 2015 MBA (which makes it 6 years old now), and they are both getting SLOW. In a vacuum - they are fine, they pull through. but they are notably slow machines. (i prefer windows but can't stand the dell and find myself keep going back to the mba - although youtube sucks on that machine wit…

I bought the T460p last year. It replaced a 2009 Macbook pro with spinning rust. That machine was fine too, but it stopped getting updates years ago so I had to replace it. I hope that Linux will support the T460p for longer.
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