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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Put tape over it?

They could put an IR camera right next to the remote sensor. Since it's behind a glass that is opaque to visible-light you wouldn't even know the camera's there, and if you put tape on it your remote wouldn't work anymore.

Thank you for giving such great ideas for free to CIA, I just can't help to wait until it's implemented in my next smart tv /s

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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It's odd a company of the size of GM cannot roll their own gas station and toad construction network. What's the purpose of the Mozilla organisation? Is it in creating a analytics platform? Mind that value of GA comes from all the info they have and thus can estimate age, gender, social things, ... of users etc. Building an comparable service is a notable effort with little synergies to what Mozilla does. (Whereas Go…

I’m a Firefox user but let’s face it, Mozilla doesn’t have to make their own — there are plenty of open-source, self-hostable analytics solutions. (Also the “toad construction network” made me laugh)

The question is: Why does Mozilla need analytics at all? Sure, counting downloads is good, but what other useful information are they pulling out of analytics?

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Why is this even at the front page of HN? I give them credit for the brilliant marketing. This is an ad disguised as an article targeting the "tech savvy" by bundling HN and Reddit (a truth + a lie makes the statement more true), a common clickbait tactic > This makes sense especially considering how difficult it is to install an adblocker on Chrome, the most popular browser on mobile devices. Nope, it is really easy…

> > This makes sense especially considering how difficult it is to install an adblocker on Chrome, the most popular browser on mobile devices. > Nope, it is really easy: is just an extension https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock-%E2%80%94- ... The key word here is mobile devices. AFAIK, ad blocking in Chrome on my phone is difficult. But with Firefox, I can easily install uBlock Origin. I use a PiHole on…

Wireguard may use less power, I've not noticed any loss of battery life when using it across multiple devices.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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As someone who has been in one or another meeting with German TV stations I can assure you this is not completely far fetched. The people deciding what is running at these stations are of the mindset (a translated quote): > Our average viewer is 65 years old and watches TV while doing the dishes, we must not show things that cannot be understood by them and then they will serenade about how they would "love to have a…

That is always the problem with data: it is reactive. Sure the average watcher is 65, and wants easy to understand stuff: that is what the data shows (I'll assume for discussion that is what the data shows, but I have no insight into if it is true or not). What the data doesn't show is if content would draw in day 25 year olds, they need several years of trying those other shows to see if it makes a difference - a ve…

This is precisely why the internet wins. It can both show the nightly news and a million other things at the same time, catering to a 60-year-old housewife, a 40-year-old car enthusiast, a 30-year old gardener, a 20-year-old fan of obscure Linux distributions and a Taiwanese 10-year-old kid living in Ireland, all at the same time. Youtube regularly recommends videos that I personally like, but that onlyhave a couple thousand views.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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You all but certainly overestimate typical technological literacy. About 5% of computer users have "advanced" literacy, defined as "Some navigation across pages and applications is required to solve the problem. The use of tools (e.g. a sort function) is required to make progress towards the solution. The task may involve multiple steps and operators. The goal of the problem may have to be defined by the respondent,…

> https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/106841164116074208 Fediverse is usually hardcore web 2.0 "runs only in latest Chrome" "I remember entire caniuse.org" sort of stuff, not much different from facebook. So its first adopters can be only non-technical users, but they can't be first adopters of new technology.

Sorry? I'm not understanding the connection here.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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post #424

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So you want more targeted ads for tech savvy people? I wouldn’t give ad tech that much credit. Many tech savvy people have cut the cord and watch TV through streaming. Anecdotally, I watch Hulu. Hulu knows so so so much about me yet zero of the ads are targeted. They very much have this capability (engineering resources) but due to a number of reasons I can only assume (network contracts, ad bids) it just probably is…

I don't live in the ad tech world, so I only vague know what is interconnected. Do the tech giants just sell info back and forth to each other? For example, When I watch youtube on my Roku, if im not signed in, does roku still aggregate what I watched on youtube, could that be sold to Hulu, for ads when I watch that on the same tv?

I work in the CTV ad-tech space. Viewership data is highly guarded by every company. It's how every company is trying to differentiate themselves from each other. So, no, YouTube and Hulu etc wouldn't share information.

Ad data is known by the DSP that serves the ad (if the company doesn't serve their own ads), but viewership data is secret as a competitive advantage.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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And well upwards of 95% of all Web users (and I'm willing to bet closer to 99%) ... will not or can not use such tools. (I support several. Tuning sites where uMatrix or even uBlock breaks stuff is a constant chore.)

Yes, many people can't or won't use uMatrix. And yes, it's a chore to tune sites. But we live in a digital jungle, it's program or be programmed.

An answer to a systematic and institutional abuse relying on individual actions which the overwhelming majority of the population will not or can not undertake ... is inherently unjust.

I use uMatrix. I appreciate the hell out of uMatrix. uMatrix is not the solution to the present level of abusive dark Web patterns.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that ov…

Not only that but some of them actually think there's a moral problem with blocking ads. Perhaps if the advertising industry didn't already prove for 20+ years that they are entirely made up of scum, I would agree. People use ads to make money. I feel bad that they aren't making money passively that way. But I grew up with ad networks, including Google themselves, turning a blind eye to deceptive ads, bait and switch…

how are ads passive? Sites have to actively generate new content to get more views.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Well, when people complain about a growing wealth divide, and those who are doing okay financially say that childhood access to public libraries and documentaries made them who they are, shouldn't those things receive funding?

“You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.” - Good Will Hunting edit: btw, speaking of libraries, copyrighteousness is destroying our society

Of course, Good Will Hunting is wrong.

Receiving education isn't about learning. At least not primary. It's about getting a piece of paper at the end.

Public libraries and free internet resources are one argument in this direction. Another: professors are usually more than happy for you to sit in on lectures, even if you don't pay any tuition.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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That is always the problem with data: it is reactive. Sure the average watcher is 65, and wants easy to understand stuff: that is what the data shows (I'll assume for discussion that is what the data shows, but I have no insight into if it is true or not). What the data doesn't show is if content would draw in day 25 year olds, they need several years of trying those other shows to see if it makes a difference - a ve…

In the US there's actually an FCC requirement that television channels air news. From https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/public-and-broadcasting : "virtually every station has an obligation to provide news, public affairs, and other programming that specifically treats the important issues facing its community." The details are specific to the license, but almost every station is required to air at least an hour of news…

> In the US there's actually an FCC requirement that television channels air news.

Except, I thought, if they're explicitly registered as entertainment channels? (Like... Fox "News".)

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