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Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by daemonologist »

Thanemate wrote: post #511

To those of you reading the comment section thinking something like the following: >"Wait a moment! Being forced to use AI gave me depression, and I'm really aware of the fact that it's only going to become better and better the more developers are using it, to the point where the 10 job openings of yesterday are 1 job opening tomorrow. Why are people so excited", remember this: You are reading HN, the survivorship b…

I think both opinions are pretty well-represented here, but the people who aren't so happy about generated code are well into the acceptance phase at this point. (Myself included.)

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by eiriklv »

decker_dev wrote: post #476
hi_hi wrote: post #315

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Nah man. I understand the frustration, but this is a glass is half empty view. You have decades of expert knowledge, which you can use to drive the LLMs in an expert way. Thats where the value is. The industry or narrative might not have figured that out yet, but its inevitable. Garbage in, garbage out still very much applies in this new world. And just to add, the key metric to good software hasn't changed, and won'…

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Is this a bot? I feel like HN is dying (for me at least) with all the em-dashes and the "it's not just X, it's Z".

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by ctxc »

al_borland wrote: post #56
zer00eyz wrote: post #35

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> I need to be able to support what I ship and answer to the details of what it does and why it does it. I can only truly do that if I write it myself. How do you function on a team, where you have to maintain code others have written?

We talk to each other. If someone wrote something I don't understand, I defer to them. If someone wrote something who is no longer with the company, we trying to make sense of it, and in some cases end up re-writing some things. There are only 3 or 4 of us working on most of the code I touch. 3 of us have worked together in some form or another for close to 20 years.

That's a LONG time! I'm happy for you :)

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by rpdillon »

samiv wrote: post #51

As a principal engineer I feel completely let down. I've spent decades building up and accumulating expert knowledge and now that has been massively devalued. Any idiot can now prompt their way to the same software. I feel depressed and very unmotivated and expect to retire soon. Talk about a rug pull! My experience is that people who weren't very good at writing software are the ones now "most excited" to "create" w…

I'm surprised that as a principal engineer, you view your greatest skill set as your expertise in programming. While that is certainly an enormous asset, I have never met a principal engineer that hadn't also mastered how to work within the organization to align the right resources to achieve big goals. Working with execs and line managers and engineers directly to bring people together to chase something complex and difficult: that skill is not going to be replaced by LLMs and remains extremely valuable.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by bitwize »

satvikpendem wrote: post #248
bitwize wrote: post #240

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Because IP democratizes returns on the creative process.

Maybe it used to but with companies like Disney lengthening copyright times way beyond the original intention, or corporations patenting absurd things, it seems to be more of a way to entrench power than any sort of democratization. I'm glad generative AI seem to be bypassing all this and actually democratizing returns on the creative process, by flagrantly violating the concept of IP.

Again, start talking to people outside the field of programming and ask them how they like it when their labor of passion is "democratized" by AI turning it into unattributable slurry.

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Post by gmadsen »

amelius wrote: post #556
pmarreck wrote: post #538

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> LLM watch-six-agents-writing-and-you-proofreading gave me so much existential crisis and depression this is extremely bizarre because I’m 53, been coding since 12, and it has had literally the exact opposite effect on me, I find it tremendously exciting, like riding a snowmobile instead of manually cross-country skiing but I do think that if you’re not ready to work like this, you may need to consider a career pivo…

Coding since 11. Using AI makes me completely lethargic. I really don't know how to fill the minutes that AI takes to write code. Maybe if AI gets faster I will be able to enjoy it. That said, like many people here I have invested quite some time in becoming a skilled and experienced coder, so there is no denying that this whole AI craze makes me feel like something is taken away from me.

Multiple projects at once or at least multiple features. I am usually the limiting factor reviewing, not waiting on agents

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by sensanaty »

simianparrot wrote: post #394

This and a lot of similar HN comments, often by fresh accounts, just read like viral marketing. Not least because of the capitalisation. Claude Code sure is great. Claud Code and my Codex reignited my passion for programming. Codex and Claude. Ugh.

140 year old here just to chime in -- Wowee Claude Code™® sure is magic and giving me back all the passion I've lost in my life now that I can Code Anything I want! It's not just a tool, it's a revolution!! Hell yeah brother let's go Code Some Stuff With Claude!!!!

It's really fucking absurd. This thread is such low quality garbage and it's somehow a top article with hundreds of bot comments all reading from the same template, what a joke.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

Thanks for sharing. It feels like you're in my head. Once people realize there's 4 layers of abstraction covering the old LAMP stacks, I think the modern architecture is going to have a hard crisis. Yes, there really will be an AI job hit, but it will be for people working on stuff that was a band aid on top of a band aid.

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Post by vitaflo »

Thanemate wrote: post #511

To those of you reading the comment section thinking something like the following: >"Wait a moment! Being forced to use AI gave me depression, and I'm really aware of the fact that it's only going to become better and better the more developers are using it, to the point where the 10 job openings of yesterday are 1 job opening tomorrow. Why are people so excited", remember this: You are reading HN, the survivorship b…

As the lead dev on our team told us "You will all have a different journey on this road". Not everyone is going to get along with allowing an LLM to write code for them, something they've probably spent their entire lives crafting a skill for. Others only saw code as a means to and end, so an LLM finally removes that silly barrier.

I'm in the former camp. Every time I have an LLM write code it makes me entirely depressed because the satisfaction I get from programming is the programming. However, what I have found incredibly valuable is having LLM's help me plan. Using it as someone to brainstorm with, to "rubber duck" if you will. I still get to code, it just speeds up the planning process and has gone from a depressing exercise to one where I am excited to work.

Find your own path.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by kameraman »

I remember getting my first PC. I was up all night and the next until I had read every word that was in that computer. These words of yours are exactly how I feel! It kept me up nights trying to absorb it all. Fast forward decades and Claude Code is giving me that same energy and drive. I love it. It feels like it did back then. I’m chasing the midnight hour and not getting any sleep.
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