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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Post by ptorrone »

ssl-3 wrote: post #658
ptorrone wrote: post #642

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article. the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer. the site publishs full-text rss feeds with n…

When companies that earn their money by selling things deliberately make their website hard to access ( especially for scrapers -- of any sort), then they're making a choice to abandon their customers. It seems ruthlessly disappointing to consider, but maybe Adafruit isn't cut out for this whole Internet thing.

(posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article. the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer.

the site publishs full-text rss feeds with no blockers here, no ads: https://blog.adafruit.com/rss

the site respects do not track, privacy badger, and similar tools. the site will probably never pass the purity tests for everyone, the goal is to stay independent, publishing, without selling readers or folding into a mega-platform. we're open source and vc free, chill out about us, ok?

if you still can’t get an article and want it in html, markdown, text, or pdf, email me and i’ll send it directly, i will read it on the phone to you, i am not kidding.

we’re trying, and we’ll keep trying. you gotta meet somewhere.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

_heimdall wrote: post #402
BobaFloutist wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I think access to firearms affects the murder rate.

That wasn't the topic though. Are you saying the United Health CEO's murder was motivated primarily by access to printing guns on a 3d printer?

I didn't say anything about motivation, I'm explaining why people didn't try addressing the assassin's complaints as a way to avoid a future repeat.

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Post by kortex »

wtcactus wrote: post #550
KingMob wrote: post #531

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Who, Mamdani? He's a democratic socialist, not a communist. It's like you just confused RAM with SSD because they both involve gigabytes.

"If there was any system that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it the abolition of private property or you call it, you know, just a statewide housing guarantee, it is preferable to what is going on right now.", Mamdani, 2020 "We have to ensure we are unapologetic about our socialism", Mamdani, 2021 "There are also other issues we firmly believe in [...] weather is the end goal of seizing the mea…

> Anna Grzymala-Busse, a Stanford University international studies professor, said that seizing the means of production is a socialist and communist goal. "The difference is that with communism, there is also one ruling party that brooks no opposition and no pluralist civil society," she said.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/03/seizing-means...

Collectivism and some amount of state controlled means of production are typical of many leftist systems. America already does this in many places: military, power, education, civil works. Communism stands out among other -isms on the left in that it is single-party and incompatible with democracy.

> suspicious gesture with his right hand

It was a Nazi salute. Don't believe me? Go to a crowded street corner and do the "suspicious gesture," and gauge the reaction.

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Post by greenavocado »

hactually wrote: post #214
pjc50 wrote: post #33

This is insanely stupid stuff. Even the UK with our weird panic over Incredibly Specific Knives hasn't tried to do this kind of technical restriction to prevent people printing guns. Why not? Because nobody is printing guns! It's an infeasible solution to a non-problem! Someone should dig into who this is coming from and why. The answers are usually either (a) they got paid to do it by a company selling the tech, whi…

Just imagine what happens when lawmakers discover the possibilities of every one with access to a lathe or CNC machine. Absolutely ridiculous.

They are trying to criminalize everyone who uses a normal lathe or a normal CNC without a permit

House Bill 2321 (HB-2321) proposes exemptions only for machines with licensed AI firmware that connects to blacklists, potentially requiring refits or licensing for machine shops.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A2228

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Post by ssl-3 »

ptorrone wrote: post #661
ssl-3 wrote: post #658

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When companies that earn their money by selling things deliberately make their website hard to access ( especially for scrapers -- of any sort), then they're making a choice to abandon their customers. It seems ruthlessly disappointing to consider, but maybe Adafruit isn't cut out for this whole Internet thing.

(posting this in both comments about this) i am the author of the article. the adafruit blog is not trying to block you my dude(s). we are under constant automated scraping and ddos, largely from ai crawlers, and we use cloudflare to keep the site online at all. the nature of of these things will cause false positives depending on browser, extensions, network, or referrer. the site publishs full-text rss feeds with n…

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Post by Neeek »

throw3e98 wrote: post #430
Neeek wrote: post #285

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The only usable part a plastic 3D printer will make for you is the receiver, which is the whole point, to circumvent that very narrow legal classification. You're right about alternative lawmaking avenues, but given the 2a pushback on controlling "replacement parts" Americans are kind of stuck with the bed they made.

> The only usable part a plastic 3D printer will make for you is the receiver this hasn't been true for like 5 years now

Well over a decade actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun) but of course just ignore the context of the parent comment about what's legally considered a firearm.

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Post by BobaFloutist »

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #626
BobaFloutist wrote: post #182

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Right, because most people recognize that the US has become sufficiently polarized and radicalized that "If enough people are mad at you, a complete stranger might shoot you" is not a theory of change we want to encourage. Yes, even for causes we agree with, most adults in the room understand that "people being mad at you" is pretty independent of how righteous your cause is, and even how civil and thoughtful you are…

>because most people recognize that the US has become sufficiently polarized and radicalized that "If enough people are mad at you, a complete stranger might shoot you" is not a theory of change we want to encourage. God forbid individuals and organizations not choose paths of action that "low level piss off" millions of people such that their chance of being at the business end of some outlier who will actually do v…

>It's not hard to not be "the thing" in any given crazy's life they choose to go out with a bang over

> The "budget" you have to wrong people and cause despair before people would be apathetic to violence done upon you is pretty directly coupled to the amount of good you do to offset your harm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Abraham_Linco...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kenne...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_John_Lennon

Agree to disagree. I'm not willing to trust the judgement of those most willing to commit gun violence as to whom deserves gun violence.

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Post by randusername »

I saw a shirt one time that said something like "in just one generation user manuals went from showing you how to tune your carburetor to warning you not to drink the battery acid"

Stupidity or nefariousness? Probably both. I don't feel like I can fix either.

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Post by greenavocado »

Washington state lawmakers, led by Democrats, have introduced bills like HB 2320 and HB 2321. HB 2320 is sponsored solely by Rep. Osman Salahuddin (D-48th District), focusing on prohibiting 3D printers and CNC machines for untraceable firearms. HB 2321, pushing printer DRM requirements, similarly lacks Republican co-sponsors based on available details. In Washington where this is going on in the state House Democrats hold 59 seats, Republicans hold 39 seats and in the state Senate Democrats hold 30 seats, Republicans hold 19 seats. These Democrat-sponsored bills passed initial House committees along party lines, with no Republican co-sponsors or primary support Virginia Democrats are advancing multiple gun ban bills in the 2026 session, including assault weapon sales bans and magazine capacity limits, primarily through Democrat-controlled committees. Virginia's General Assembly has a slim Democratic majority sponsoring and pushing these measures without Republican support.

In VA, bills like house SB 217 (assault weapon ban) and HB 271 (semi-auto ban) were approved in the Democrat-led Senate Courts of Justice Committee strictly along party lines. Sponsors such as Sen. Saddam Azlan Salim (D) lead these efforts, facing opposition from Republicans like Del. Terry Kilgore (R). They await full Assembly votes and signature from Democratic Gov. Abigail Spanberger.

In NY State, Democrats, holding supermajorities in the Assembly (103-47) and Senate (42-20), champion Governor Hochul's 2026 State of the State proposals. These include criminalizing unlicensed possession/sale of CAD files for 3D-printed guns (via Penal Law amendments), mandating 3D printer safety standards to block firearm production, and requiring recovery reports to state police. Key bills like S.227A (Sen. Hoylman-Sigal, active in 2025 session) target 3D-printed ghost guns/silencers as felonies; related A2228 pushes printer background checks.

Republicans offer no sponsorship or support, labeling Hochul's agenda and bills like S.227A "anti-gun, anti-speech" infringements on Second Amendment rights and innovation for non-gun printing. NRA-ILA criticizes them as futile against criminals while burdening hobbyists

In my opinion the ICE unrest is a smoke screen. During Obama's presidency (roughly 2009-2017), 56 people died in ICE custody, averaging about 7 per year. There were no major protests over the 56 deaths under Obama because the current situation is a psychological influence operation led by the same criminals who seek to exterminate the rights of ordinary Americans (showcased above). There is a separate fully frontal assault on personal liberties impacting normal American citizens happening right now and it is happening while all the attention is on Minneapolis!

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=2320&Year=202...

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?BillNumber=2321&Year=202...

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20260127/virginia-gun-contro...

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S227/amendme...

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A2228

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Post by Brian_K_White »

dns_snek wrote: post #468
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #464

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Too bad everyone jumped shipped to Bambuu Labs. If only we still had open source hardware.

We do still have open source hardware but that's the last line of defense against actions like this, not the first. They'll target distribution which will affect open source and proprietary hardware equally. You need to kill this sort of legislation in its crib.

You need both, because there really is no such thing as kill it in it's crib. The people that want this will continue to want it forever, and will continue to propose it forever. And eventually it works.
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