Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

Post by Joeboy » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 9:08 PM UTC

catigula wrote: post #656

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I don't really want to get into the A word thing, but your position makes more sense to me from a perspective of being anti-Jewish, rather than pro-Palestinian. From the latter perspective, I think it's better to challenge Israel's narratives than embolden them.

I'm glad you realize how silly that word has become. In reality, groups of people via culture or whatever other mechanism do generate certain things that are undeserving or deserving of censure. For example, due to cultural reasons, 1930-1940s Germany produced a high preponderance of Nazis, so we destroyed them. I'm not suggesting cultural destruction is possible or desireable (maybe it is, but it's not my purview),…

Post by elcritch » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 9:13 PM UTC

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> I believe it also to be true that the IDF do not want to kill civilians, and that their target is only Hamas. I think it’s this second assertion that relies on facts not in evidence. Previous Guardian reporting on IDF use of compute for targeting indicated they were using it to increase, not decrease, the number of approved targets.

Hamas is quite open about their desire to increase civilian casualties by deliberately using civilians as human shields(which is of course a war crime). It's clearly part of their overall strategy.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 9:17 PM UTC

hashim wrote: post #406

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Search for "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".

So the criticisms from the 90s that I mentioned in my other comment? Yeah, I prefer to live in the modern world. It isn't Microsoft that needs to be hit with antitrusts in 2025. It's Apple and Google. Live moves on, and in 2025, Microsoft is one of the more ethical tech companies around, unless you're one of the many sheltered people in tech that think targeted advertising is manifest evil that's on par with enabling…

Post by mrguyorama » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 9:19 PM UTC

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>I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.

> We are fighting human animals What else do you call people who rape and murder civilians, then parade their dead bodies around to cheering crowds? Hamas will never have any sympathy from most people who watched the October 7 attack footage.

Post by samirillian » Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 9:20 PM UTC

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> The decision has not affected Microsoft’s wider commercial relationship with the IDF, which is a longstanding client and will retain access to other services. The termination will raise questions within Israel about the policy of holding sensitive military data in a third-party cloud hosted overseas. It's worth noting that even after finding out the "most moral" army is conducting mass surveillance, they're still h…

Doesn't every army conduct "mass surveillance"? What do you think all those satellites with cameras are doing orbiting the planet? Wouldn't the opposite be incredibly immoral? Attacking/bombing/etc without large scale surveillance would largely mean increased collateral damage.