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Post by intended »

daveguy wrote: post #570
billfor wrote: post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it’s not just the government even assuming your comment about the first amendment is correct. Sinclair + Nexstar are about 80% of the stations and they both refused to carry it, so there’s a financial component. I believe their affiliates were the first to cancel even before the FCC comments. Why should ABC lose 80% of their income. https://x.com/WeAreSinclair/status/1968471160359645658

The first amendment restricts the government.

There is no real engagement with your core point. What you are going to see is an evolutionary approach to finding which message is the most able to defuse umbrage, and further right leaning interests.

If it’s useful to argue for free speech in one breath, then for censorship in the next, followed by “its just words” - it will be argued in that order.

The utility function is politics, not reason or logic. Getting people to engage, and get tied up in the logic, is a feature not a bug. It wastes energy and creates the impression that this is an issue resolved with words and understanding.

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Post by intended »

themaninthedark wrote: post #582
alpha_squared wrote: post #48

I'm unsure where we as a society go from here. The left's cancel culture resulted in the firing of private citizens from their jobs, or at least some reprimand. The right's cancel culture is the full weight of the federal government brought down against opposition, in stark violation of the First Amendment; that is, until the Supreme Court can find some new carve-out for why this isn't protected speech. Realistically…

I see we are forgetting the period of time from the end of 2019 to 2022... Government agencies were "recommending" and "cautioning" social media companies on topics such as COVID and laptops. That was not being done to benefit the political rights. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24781367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24813762

These cases were taken to the courts, and for the covid issue I am aware that the firms were never forced, and were able to ignore government instructions and do their own thing.

The exact opposite of what has happened here.

The same will be the situation with laptops.

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Post by gsf_emergency_2 »

mkfs wrote: post #657
gsf_emergency_2 wrote: post #600

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Family is staunchly republican, tho the perp himself went indy in the last few elections. Being gay doesn't say anything, Thiel's gay bf killed himself for what seems like political issues too (& might have been Indy like perp-- or, say sama) https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-ki...

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I didn't want to be more specific, only quoting a reputable source verbatim; but you forced my hand :)

Family is even staunchly Mormon, AIUI

https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/who-is-tyler-robinson/

Leave it as an exercise to construct the bayesian model for ex-Mormons are: homosexual, leftist, etc

There's a reason Mormons are sought-after gov employees*, but if we can't talk about that, be consoled by the idea that being leftist is treasonous

*A level religious, above uh Luigi's sub-ethnicity, famous for its loyalty, shall we say

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Post by VoodooJuJu »

RF_Enthusiast wrote: post #293

I’m at a loss of what to watch as far as television goes in the US, between the government threatening to intervene in content, corporations that own television networks with little regard for journalistic integrity, and PBS downsizing. I’m pretty much exclusively watching NHK from Japan through a Roku app.

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Post by lupusreal »

wqaatwt wrote: post #510
lupusreal wrote: post #399

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> I am largely neutral on this particular assassination, as I knew almost nothing about Mr. Kirk prior to his departure (just name recognition & basic political associations). This seems confusing to me. The default "neutral" position on any murder, most of all when you don't know much about the victim, is that murder is a horrible thing, is it not? Is that what you mean, or do you mean you aren't sure if this was go…

Well thousands and thousands of people are being murdered all the time. You (or anyone) couldn’t care less about almost every single one of them. So why single out this one? I mean who cares about school shootings? One nutjob murdering another nutjob on the other hand…

Not feeling personally invested in every murder is normal. Taking the position that you don't know if a murder was good or bad is highly abnormal.

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Post by ahaferburg »

davesque wrote: post #119

I believe this is the clip in question? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk As much as I can tell, they're mad because Kimmel pointed out a couple of instances where Trump seemed to care more about his new ballroom at the WH than about the recent murder of Kirk. I've been reluctant to toss around the f-word, but it doesn't feel like an exaggeration to call this fascism. Kimmel said nothing that should have wa…

Starts at 2:01.

Kimmel

We hit some new lows over the week end with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger pointer, there was uh grieving. On Friday the White House flew the flags at half staff which got some criticism but on a human level you can... see how hard the president is taking this.

Reporter

My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?

Trump

I think very good, and by the way right there you see all the trucks. They've just started construction of the new ball room for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for a 150 years, and it's going to be a beauty.

Kimmel

Yes. He's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction.

Demolition. Construction. This is not how an adult grieves the murder of somebody called their friend. This is how a four year old mourns a gold fish, ok? And it didn't just happen once.

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Post by dada78641 »

It really is kind of incredible. I just saw the clip and there really is absolutely nothing there. This is not even 10% as poignant of what Jon Stewart would say in his day. He doesn't even say anything about Kirk himself, or even about the murder—he just talks about the reaction to it.

I already thought it was very suspicious that Sinclair's official press release just talks about how the remarks were "inappropriate and deeply insensitive" without describing anything about the actual remarks. And it even calls for the FCC to get involved?

What this really says is: you should be very afraid, because we will completely demolish if it suits us and we don't need a pretext.

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Post by tempodox »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #425
troad wrote: post #379

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So, hear me out, books are pretty great! Lots of people say things like "I know I should read, but it's this whole thing ..." and then you find out they've been stuck on page 3 of Wuthering Heights for forty years, because someone convinced them they ought to be reading that, and it's haunted them from their night-stand ever since. Don't let anyone tell you what to read, pick up something that sounds fun to you, and…

Wow… sounds like you’ve been reading my diary! If I pick something up and it sucks, I feel bad stopping and force myself to finish it (which will take 8 months because I hate it). And that stops any reading progress.

Trick: Read more than one book at a time.

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Post by MacsHeadroom »

DangitBobby wrote: post #295
throwmeaway222 wrote: post #249

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I'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence?

From the murderer's text messages:

> Roommate: Why?

> Robinson: Why did I do it?

> Roommate: Yeah

> Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.

Besides everyone around him testifying that he'd been left-wing ever since dropping out of college, his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left.

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Post by ceejayoz »

raxxorraxor wrote: post #658
Pxtl wrote: post #539

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The problem is that he gave Trump a fig leaf of an excuse to go after him, and that's all they needed.

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The First Amendment protects my rights to say you are being an asshole.

The First Amendment also forbids the government from punishing you for merely being an asshole.

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