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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Post by tootie »

cloverich wrote: post #340
seanw444 wrote: post #275

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My bias in these cases is that the simplest answer, same as any mass shooting, is that the killers motivations are a manifestation of mental illness and nothing more. Not always true but typically so; wasnt the trump would be assassin not left for instance? When i was told that i wasnt surprised, not because i think it was more likely of someone on the right, but because i think its mostly random. Eg we have a gun cu…

Just look at the guy who shot Trump's ear. He had no discernable motive or explicit political leaning at all. And had supposedly been tracking both Trump and Biden. He just did it for attention.

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Post by sparrish »

rolph wrote: post #113
_wire_ wrote: post #87

Republicans are continually outraged by cancel culture, and Republican hypocrisy is (without hyperbole) sociopathic. News just today-- Republican DoJ censored longitudinal study previously published by DoJ which revealed that far and away the most U.S. political violence is perpetrated by... Republicans! Both internally and internationally. Utah Republicans put a suicide watch on Kirk-shooting suspect because they wa…

"Noem is bragging that she shot the family hunting dog because he was "worthless"; all he would do is "massacre chickens" at her hunting lodge, and tried to bite her. She also put down a "disgusting, musky billy goat" that lived around her compound. She said wanted to come clean and show how she can "responsibility". She bragged that the story of shooting her dog got her the top slot at ICE." this is so chillingly re…

Have you ever lived in a rural community?

Putting useless or malicious animals down is merciful and common place and definitely not the making of serial killers.

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Post by otterley »

chasing0entropy wrote: post #177
Sparkle-san wrote: post #124

> The ABC late-night host’s remarks constituted “the sickest conduct possible,” FCC chair Brendan Carr told right-wing podcaster Benny Johnson on Wednesday. Carr suggested his FCC could move to revoke ABC affiliate licenses as a way to force Disney to punish Kimmel. Regardless of what Kimmel said and if you think it was appropriate or not, we are seeing this administration use this as an opportunity to trample on the…

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The First Amendment protects people against much more than criminal prosecution. Cases I recommend you read include:

Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46

Simon & Schuster, Inc. v. Members of New York State Crime Victims Board, 502 U.S. 105

The New York Times v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 84 S.Ct. 710, 11 L.Ed.2d. 686 (1964)

Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc., 418 U.S. 323, 94 S.Ct. 2997, 41 L.Ed.2d. 789 (1974)

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Post by Aloisius »

kcplate wrote: post #317
iamdelirium wrote: post #274

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> In this case, it is the FCC, an arm of the government, that is pressuring ABC to do this rather than other private citizens. Actually it was a couple of big ABC affiliate owners that started the avalanche, and ABC followed…not any government pressure. You can certainly speculate that the these affiliates had an ulterior motive in their actions to curry favor with the Trump administration, but it’s not unreasonable…

Order of events:

1. FCC Chairman Carr threatens licensed broadcasters (i.e. affiliates that have a license with the FCC) telling them they should stop running Kimmel and tell Disney they're doing it because the FCC may pull their license[1]

2. Nexstar, an affiliate broadcaster, issues a statement in response to Carr’s comments saying they're not going to broadcast Kimmel

3. ABC yanks Kimmel

[1] https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1968392506711613526

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Post by tootie »

shruubi wrote: post #386

I'm of two minds on this, I think all comedians should be able to make fun of anything, but at the same time, just because you have the right to free speech doesn't mean you get to avoid the consequences of what you say. Whether I agree with the outcome or not, if ABC don't like what Jimmy Kimmel said, they are free to pull his show off the air and fire him all they want, Kimmel is not entitled or owed TV time nor is…

It was the CEO of Disney and it happened after threats from the head of the FCC.

Edit: to clarify, the CEO of Disney caved to pressure from affiliates owned by a Nexstar who are actively petitioning the FCC to relax media ownership rules so they can buy more affiliates than the law allows.

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Post by rattlesnakedave »

ceejayoz wrote: post #316
throwacct wrote: post #314

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According to the latest iteration, his right-wing family said he was left-wing and even neighbors saw him with his roommate. Freedom of speech is protected. That people are celebrating a man's death, and worse yet, justifying it, is evil but still protected. But what's not protected is the consequences of these actions. I don't want to live, work, etc... next to someone who thinks that it's ok to commit acts of viole…

> But what's not protected is the consequences of these actions. But this is protected in this case. I can unfriend you on Facebook for saying “I’m not sad he’s dead”. (And to be clear, Kimmel didn’t even go that far.) I can kick you out of my birthday party. I can complain to your employer. They can fire you. (They can fire you for having tattoos, or red hair!) But the government cannot do these things. That is the…

There is no First Amendment right to an FCC broadcast license.

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Post by suzdude »

fdschoeneman wrote: post #380
suzdude wrote: post #319

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There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/ty... It seems he was "raised right", with easy access to firearms and ammunition. Items not nearly as common in left voting urban areas. However, Mr. Kimmel's comments centered on the fact that his political leanings, and reasoning for the scho…

It was well known before Kimmel made his comments that the shooter was in a romantic relationship with a trans woman. Having said that, even if he did not know about that relationship it was irresponsible of Kimmel to repeat rumors he could not have known were true that the shooter was maga.

Except your premise is incorrect.

Kimmel did not repeat rumors, he asserted that the political affiliations were unknown.

edit: He asserted the "MAGA gang" trying to distance themselves from Mr. Robinson, which is true. It does not mean Kimmel views Robinson as "MAGA".

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Post by da_chicken »

mrandish wrote: post #233

We really need to stop the cancelling of people for saying controversial, disagreeable and even deeply offensive things. I don't agree with what Kimmel said and I wouldn't have said it myself but it also wasn't outside the bounds of opinions which should be able to be expressed. If you're nodding along in agreement, then you should also know my long-term commitment to consistency in tolerating factually wrong, distas…

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Post by lupusreal »

ProllyInfamous wrote: post #173

I am largely neutral on this particular assassination, as I knew almost nothing about Mr. Kirk prior to his departure (just name recognition & basic political associations). But I do think, after decades of reflection, that comedians are correct when they point out that stereotypical humor shouldn't be off limits to any performer (of any background/color), but is... e.g. Owen Benjamin, Chappelle, Seinfeld .

> I am largely neutral on this particular assassination, as I knew almost nothing about Mr. Kirk prior to his departure (just name recognition & basic political associations).

This seems confusing to me. The default "neutral" position on any murder, most of all when you don't know much about the victim, is that murder is a horrible thing, is it not? Is that what you mean, or do you mean you aren't sure if this was good or bad?

Any human with their head screwed on straight innately assigns a very negative value weight to murder. To get yourself into a situation where you aren't sure about a murder would require you to have pretty strong beliefs about the victim or circumstance, which you claim to not have.

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Post by suzdude »

kelnos wrote: post #387
suzdude wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/ty... It seems he was "raised right", with easy access to firearms and ammunition. Items not nearly as common in left voting urban areas. However, Mr. Kimmel's comments centered on the fact that his political leanings, and reasoning for the scho…

> There are multiple statements from his relatives that his family are "MAGA", his parents are Registered Republicans. To be fair, that doesn't necessarily say anything about his politics. I know plenty of liberals with MAGA parents. I don't think we can draw any conclusions as to his politics at this time.

Exactly, which was the point Kimmel was making. Apparently that suggestion was too much for the current administration, and the official narrative must not be questioned.
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