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Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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I've been using Gemini in Bard since the launch, with respect to coding it is outperforming GPT4 in my opinion. There is some convergence in the answers,but Bard is outputting really good code now.

You're right. I just tested it with some code prompts and it did surprisingly well.

That's something! I'll try it too. Thanks <3

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No. It solved it by (most of the time) giving the OP and I the answer to our queries, without us needing to wade through spammy SERP links.

If LLMs can replace 90% of your queries, then you have very different search patterns from me. When I search on Kagi, much of the time I’m looking for the website of a business, a public figure’s social media page, a restaurant’s hours of operation, a software library’s official documentation, etc. LLMs have been very useful, but regular search is still a big part of everyday life for me.

Sure we now have options, but before LLMs, most queries relied solely on search engines, often leading to sifting through multiple paragraphs on websites to find answers — a barrier for most users.

Today, LLMs excel in providing concise responses, addressing simple, curious questions like, "Do all bees live in colonies?"

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Microsoft failed to enter the mobile space, yeah. Google fumbled with the Nexus stuff, even though they succeeded with the Android software. But bigger picture, Microsoft was still able to diversify their revenue sources a lot while Google failed to do so.

That's true, although Pixel seems good as a successor, but the big thing Microsoft did was use what they had to get into new markets. Procuring Azure is a good option for lots of companies because most companies' IT staff know AD and Microsoft in general, and Microsoft's cloud offers them a way to use the same (well, not the same, but it's too late by then) tools to manage their company IT. I'm not disagreeing with i…

What frustrates me about Google is they fumbled in a lot of markets that aren't far from their established ones. Zoom ate their lunch with video chat, and now MS Teams seems to be beating GSuite. Maybe YouTube -> social networking would've been doable, but they botched it with G+. The old Google was only good at facing new technical challenges, not making products. Now that's changing, and I think at least they can make Google Cloud work.

I also don't see anything big Google has leveraged Android for, besides Pixel, which is actually more to cement Android cause they know they don't have enough control with software alone. At least I have decent amount of faith in them pulling that off.

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The faster javascript runtime was what made it a success IMO.

The leveraging their search monopoly to push it and paying other software to sneak it into installs is what made it a success.

Nah. Safari did plenty of monopoly abuse and sneaking into installs, but still never got big on Windows. At some point the user experience does matter.

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Uhh, no, not really; quite the opposite in fact. Under Eric Schmidt they were engineer-driven, during the golden era of the 2000s. Nowadays they're MBA driven, which is why they had 4 different messaging apps from different product managers.

The golden era of the 2000s produced no revenue stream other than ads on Google Search.

Exactly. I never cared for the "golden age" Google. Maybe the old days were fun, but it wasn't going to be tenable forever.

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Sorry if this was a joke and I didn't spot it. Chrome was based on WebKit which was itself based on KHTML if memory serves. Chromebooks are based on a version of that outside engine running on top of Linux which they also didn't create.

Webkit is not a browser.

If you have a Mac you can download the Webkit browser here: https://webkit.org/downloads/

Which uses the WebKit engine and is kindof a showcase for Safari, granted, but it still exists as distinct browser under that name.

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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I was fooled. The model release announcement said it could accept video and audio multi-modal input. I understood that there was a lot of editing and cutting, but I really believed I was looking at an example of video and audio input. I was completely impressed since it’s quite a leap to go from text and still images to “eyes and ears.” There’s even the segment where instruments are drown and music was generated. I t…

I bet OpenAI and MS do the same, but people have a positive perception of them due to the massive chatGPT hype wave.

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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People still email word docs around. It’s nuts. Maybe Exchange is smart enough to intercept them and say “hey use this online one instead”? At least for intra-org..

I email Word docs around. It’s like low-tech version control - I know exactly what was in the doc, and can recover it easily.

You are right - that's the feature!

Plus it's point in time - I'm sending you the document as it is now, and I might start cutting it about or changing it after to send to someone else, but this the version I want to send you.

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