Facebook is pushing back on Apple’s new iPhone privacy rules

Post by zepto » Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:33 AM UTC

jb775 wrote: post #510

move-on-by wrote: post #44

I don't have Facebook and I'm generally skeptical of Apple's pro-privacy messaging. However, seeing this response from Facebook has gotten me very excited for this update. There must be more to it then Apple's generic 'Most Advanced Update Ever' marketing. I'm still skeptical of Apple's commitment to privacy, but I'm certainly happy to get this update. Apple should thank Facebook for the free marketing.

I'm skeptical as well considering Apple selectively leaves gaping holes depending on levels of public knowledge (e.g. talk a big game on encryption, but don't encrypt iCloud backups while using dark patterns nudging users towards using iCloud backups). This is definitely good for privacy in the short term, but long term will depend on if Apple decides to monetize this data themselves.

Post by zepto » Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:41 AM UTC

gen220 wrote: post #342

yawaworht1978 wrote: post #11

Apple should be applauded for this. Their revenue does not depend on software to clandestinely steal and sell users data. One day, we will look back at history and see facebook similar as to how people view myspace now (junkyard of software). Good on Apple not selling devices with a facebook backdoor in them. I know apple probably has deals with malicious governments regarding data access, but at least they are stand…

One of my coworkers shared an interesting thought with me the other day. Apple is positioning itself as The Privacy Company today, but they've benefited immensely from the attention economy over the last 15 years. They would not have sold as many millions of iPhones, iPods (heck, even Macbooks) in the last decade, if Instagram & Facebook weren't there to suck people in to their platform (clearly, the same is true for…

Post by cacarr » Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:48 AM UTC

paulmd wrote: post #542

ryeguy_24 wrote: post #86

Does anyone support Facebook with this? Does their point below make any sense? I'm supporting Apple now but any merit to the opposing side? Curious to get some informed viewpoints. "This discouragement, this is going to have a real impact on the Internet as we know it, which is increasingly going to move to a paid experience, which again, benefits Apple's bottom line..."

One need only look back at the previous threads on the App Store to find people arguing that Apple should be legally forced to open their platform up to competitors, which would pretty much gut these kinds of privacy-protecting moves. Facebook will immediately move exclusively to a separate app store that doesn't ask developers to justify user-relevant reasons for the permissions it requests, and immediately start de…

Post by onlyrealcuzzo » Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:53 AM UTC

ph2082 wrote: post #656

Little off topic, but how do I get this feature on Android or can an app be built which blocks others apps from tracking ?

Post by cacarr » Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 3:57 AM UTC

varispeed wrote: post #312

I think the Facebook case shouldn't be left to the market to "sort itself out", but instead this type of business model should be banned in its entirety, just like people cannot run ponzi schemes, they shouldn't also run "free" services in exchange for processing personal data.