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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by Wingman4l7 »

themstheones wrote: post #178
meerita wrote: post #129

I visualize this: husband is sleeping deeply, wife picks up the phone and taps the home button while he's sleeping and unlocks the phone. Release the kraken.

If he doesn't have anything to hide from his wife then he has nothing to worry about.

So this argument is complete crap when it comes to governments but totally okay when it comes to spouses?

How about a series of emails joking & griping about your wife's habits to your best friend? Completely harmless but not exactly the kind of thing that you'd want them reading.

Our digital selves trail back in time farther and farther these days; would you want your wife reading emails between you and an ex from before you met her?

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Post by Wingman4l7 »

nir wrote: post #265
meerita wrote: post #129

I visualize this: husband is sleeping deeply, wife picks up the phone and taps the home button while he's sleeping and unlocks the phone. Release the kraken.

First the NSA, now the wife, what's up with people in HN? Are you all planning a coup with your mistresses? If you're married and your SO can't just ask you for your PIN code - and you will, without even thinking about it, give it to them - you might want to take some time to think hard about your relationship.

How about a series of emails joking & griping about your wife's habits to your best friend? Completely harmless but not exactly the kind of thing that you'd want them reading.

Our digital selves trail back in time farther and farther these days; would you want your wife reading emails between you and an ex from before you met her?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Alterlife wrote: post #594
Dylan16807 wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which one is the iphone? It would certainly be easy to have some real gold on it.

Speaking as an Indian, "real gold" is the kind you can take to a jewelry shop and sell if things get rough... or exchange for other "real gold". ie: 22 Karat.

Oh, so it has to be solid, not plated? Well what a shame that it's too soft for a phone.

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Post by EpicEng »

cheald wrote: post #239
stanleydrew wrote: post #213

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More snark. This isn't helpful. For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA isn't spying on people anymore.

I'm not snarking at all. I'm observing that comments about the NSA are entirely apropos given the current climate we live in. Yes, you're right, at this point, it would take something extremely radical to convince us that the NSA isn't spying on us anymore. Therefore, we should expect comments about the NSA and spying to become a part of the common dialog regarding technology and personal information. Asking them to…

You know what I like? Talking about tech stuff on tech sites. You know what I don't like? Random NSA comments on anything that has to do with some device which operates on electricity.

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Post by mcantelon »

melling wrote: post #327
cheald wrote: post #288

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This is the exact sort of attitude that has permitted us to get to the point where we even have to have a conversation about the government being engaged in massively intrusive spying programs. "I don't want to hear your whining about it" is a means of condoning these actions through silence. You are a part of the problem. If you can comprehend what is going on here, you should be loud and obnoxious about it. Get peo…

Essentially, you are asking me to discuss my politics here, where I draw the line, etc in a thread about the iPhone 5s. I know where you stand. I heard you the first ten times. I'm not trying to stop you from having the discussion. Can you just label the thread "NSA can get your fingerprints off that iPhone 5S" and have at it. There is a time and a place for everything. Everyone here has heard about the NSA situation…

The stuff about the backdoor capabilities came out in the last week so it's not exactly old news.

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Post by davidedicillo »

Heliosmaster wrote: post #9

About the ID fingerprints? Am I the only one so in constant fear and doubt that thinks this would be a great way of bulk collecting the fingerprints of ANYONE?

I guess you never left the country, because that's one of the things they take every time you come back in the US.

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Post by cookingrobot »

samstave wrote: post #384
downandout wrote: post #360

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So use a passcode - the fingerprint feature is optional. That said, I doubt they are doing anything nefarious with it - if it eventually leaked that fingerprints were being sent to the NSA, the cost to Apple would be incalculable. I would bet, or at least hope, that Apple has designed the hardware involved to be subpoena proof - meaning that the design would make it impossible to remotely collect fingerprints even if…

So here is where "meta data" and direct access to app info gets really interesting. Firstly - the NSA has no need to be able to access the fingerprint. The fact that the fingerprint is your passcode barometrically ties you to the device, without a doubt, and makes the meta data all that much more accurate. What we know is that the NSA has complete upstream dominance, direct and indirect access to company data and ext…

The only new scenario I can think of here is if your fingerprint happens to be the same as some bad person - either by coincidence or an error in the scan. This could get you some unwanted attention.

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Post by sliverstorm »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #592
sliverstorm wrote: post #266

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It could depend on the state, but in America a driver's license is basically the de-facto form of ID. So, sometime back in the 50's or something, I believe fingerprints started to be taken as part of getting your license so that your fingerprints could be traced back to you for crime purposes. Similar to how in some states when you purchase a firearm, you are required to give the state a spent shell so that the state…

"When" you purchase a firearm?! Only in America ...

Your smug sense of self superiority is so endearing

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Post by batiudrami »

NamTaf wrote: post #604
Tichy wrote: post #495

Can't believe they didn't make bigger screens. iPhones seem so tiny these days. Also, just 33 votes on HN atm - made me realize that probasbly people are already using HN votes as input for their stock trading aslgorithms :-)

I can't believe anyone wants a bigger screen. It's a phone, not a computer. I use it to quickly check email/web pages on the go, not write an essay. A bigger screen just means it ties up more room in my pocket.

The only real use for a bigger screen is that using the internet is considerably more usable. The easiest way to see this is to compare the internet on an iPhone vs iPad - even though you have exactly the same inputs (assuming you don't use a stylus), the iPad is orders of magnitude easier to browse the web on. There is a similar effect (though obviously lesser) to interacting with web pages on a 5" screen vs a 4" one - much more so than the extra inch would suggest.

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Post by Bud »

Hey, not to break up the bash-the-NSA discussion, which is legit and badly needed, but did anyone notice just how bad the fact-checking is in this article? It's terrible.

Error 1: article says the A7 is a "40x CPU performance bump". Wrong; it's 40x over the original iPhone, not over the A6.

Error 2: article says graphics are "56x faster". Same error.

Error 3: article claims the M7 is a motion sensor; it's not. It's a chip which handles data from the various sensors.

Error 4: next paragraph after the first M7 paragraph finally gets it right. Bad editing.

Error 5: Apple didn't skirt the megapixel count for the new sensor as claimed. The new sensor has the same MP count, as was stated.

Error 6: article mentions a "10-shot burst mode". Wrong again. The burst mode is 10 frames per second, but is not limited to any specific number of frames.

Just an incredibly bad job, here.

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