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Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by Daviey »

tzs wrote: post #223
Daviey wrote: post #216

As a long term metal customer, I understood the need to raise prices for energy usage.... but for disk/ram I'm struggling to be sympathetic. The hardware I am using is already procured by them, and until such time there is a hardware failure I cannot support a price rise, because were is their justification for existing hardware?

An ongoing business that intends to remain ongoing has to charge current customers based on the replacement cost of consumable items used to service those customers. That's why for example gasoline prices react almost immediately after something affects (or even threatens to affect) the price of crude oil, even at gas stations that have just filled their storage tanks and will be selling that already purchases gas fo…

A better analogy is renting a car, and then jacking up prices for existing rentals, rather than just new ones.

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Post by stymaar »

tommica wrote: post #648
stymaar wrote: post #645

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is the real risk after the slow death of personal computing. This. People tend to take things for granted, but the world we've grown up with is not guaranteed to live forever, in twenty years personal computing could look like the personal CD or video tapes collection of the 90s-00s: a thing of the past for most people.

It's quite crazy to imagine personal computing to die. It always felt as a staple, that I could always buy components, that someone would manufacturer them and I could cobble together a machine. But now the prices going so high that it kills the market is... just sad.

> It always felt as a staple, that I could always buy components, that someone would manufacturer them and I could cobble together a machine.

I feel the same. But at the same time the generalization of laptops (with custom motherboard, and soldered parts) and smartphones (custom SoC) means this is already a niche thing. Gamers were the last mass market for upgradeable modular deskops, but a sufficiently long hardware drought would most likely make game editors way more resource conscious, which may kill this niche entirely.

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Post by chadgpt3 »

tommica wrote: post #648
stymaar wrote: post #645

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is the real risk after the slow death of personal computing. This. People tend to take things for granted, but the world we've grown up with is not guaranteed to live forever, in twenty years personal computing could look like the personal CD or video tapes collection of the 90s-00s: a thing of the past for most people.

It's quite crazy to imagine personal computing to die. It always felt as a staple, that I could always buy components, that someone would manufacturer them and I could cobble together a machine. But now the prices going so high that it kills the market is... just sad.

Personal computing is already dead. We use locked down mobile endpoints that run pre-approved thin client software connecting to giant mainframes over monopolized radio networks.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by chadgpt3 »

cyberax wrote: post #329
oasisbob wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been wondering the same. GCP recently increased their egress pricing, and was expecting AWS to follow. So far, haven't seen any other notable cloud price increases. Thought for sure they'd be reevaluating by now, I'm surprised to see the stability.

AWS now has unmetered egress, but it's pretty expensive. A 10G port is $8k a month.

Got some info about this?

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Post by chadgpt3 »

bigbuppo wrote: post #107
binarymax wrote: post #14

This is just the reality of hardware costs now. RAM and Disk are scarce, prices have skyrocketed. I wonder how much leverage the hyperscalers like AWS/GCP/Azure have on their own supply chain to keep costs level in their clouds.

What happens to these platforms when there's nothing left to access them? That's where we're headed.

They sell it to us.

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Post by chadgpt3 »

bojangleslover wrote: post #650

"Death of personal computing" Renewed M1 Mac in 2026: Entry level MacBook in 2006: $1099 This hardware price spike is just a blip.

"Death of me"

Number of living cells when I'm 99: 100000000000000

Number of living cells when I'm a 2 day embryo: 50

This decline in my living cells is just a blip

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Post by chadgpt3 »

eugenekolo wrote: post #42

It really is an absolute massive jump. Have no clue what's going on in the back to warrant a 3x increase... 25-50%, sure.. but 3x is wild.

It seems to be 2-tier pricing. You can pay 4x for guaranteed delivery... they may have excess capacity at some point (-LTD SKUs) and then you can pay 1.1x while stocks last.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by chadgpt3 »

ianberdin wrote: post #282

I say hello to every happy HN and twitter post “we moved to hetzner and saved 10X”. I told ya about silent happiness…

Now you are still saving 3x. You underestimate how expensive AWS is.

If you already moved you're still saving 10x because the increases are for new orders.

Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Post by chadgpt3 »

romaniv wrote: post #206

AI seems to be ruining every single major thing that drove economic growth for the past 4 decades. PCs, the Web, software in general, high-capacity servers, Raspberry Pis and so on. The next thing to be affected will probably be smartphones. All of these things are foundations of profitable businesses right now and we are destroying them on the mere promise to get to some idiotic utopia in the future.

AI is a nothingburger, it's just the latest capital flight. Undeployed capital needs to go somewhere and this time it's AI, last time cryptocurrency, before that metaverse. One might reasonably ask why these bubbles keep getting bigger and bigger and the answer to that is almost entirely USA government policy which is to squeeze labor and expand capital at every opportunity.
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