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Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by mrweasel »

whazor wrote: post #543
mrweasel wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corporations are afraid of taking chance, and Ives have been elevated to this design guru for his work at Apple. This is despite the fact that he clearly had some terrible designes approved at Apple, but no on had the balls or status to tell him to go back to the studio and make an actual good design. Ives also had a ton of really excellent and classic designs, but maybe the world needs to stop pretending that everyt…

The exterior looks like a sad compromise between aerodynamics and design. Though the white version looks least plasticky. That weird bumper looks like the consequence of getting a lower drag coefficient.

It looks a little like the Apple Magic Mouse from some angles, only more ergonomic.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by tencentshill »

4rtem wrote: post #580

I don't get why Ferrari didn't make a sub brand for EV and other cars that doesn't fit in their 'dream car' philosophy. Enzo did it with Dino, it didn't work then, but could be a smart move today. Regarding the car itself, it's great. It's obvious that car existed in sketches and concept long time ago (compare it to the other Newson car – Ford 012C), maybe it's an Apple car and just materialized with a few Ferrari si…

Perhaps they hired an outside designer to not harm their own reputation. It was always going to be poorly received because it's an ugly aerodynamic EV SUV, which every brand has. There's no way to stand out if it must have an ultra-low CD.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by rounce »

nixass wrote: post #582
andsoitis wrote: post #344

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> If you're going to drive this slowly you might as well buy a Tesla Model S Plaid has faster acceleration than Luce and they have similar top speed. Reportedly, the Luce has more nimble handling.

> Model S Plaid has faster acceleration than Luce and they have similar top speed. People don’t get sports cars just for the acceleration.

Good thing neither are sports cars.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by TylerE »

Copernicron wrote: post #624
seabass-labrax wrote: post #594

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Several Kia models produced around 2005 incorporated the questionable design of having the engine control electronics located below the oil sump - as I've seen first-hand what that does to the vehicle's maintenance costs, I'm inclined to agree with you!

I know a number of people with this view on Kia and Hyundai. "They were garbage back in 199X or 200X so they're still garbage now." Except that was twenty or thirty years ago and from what I've heard they made advances in design and quality since then.

The immobilizer issue I mentioned effects virtually every Kia built between 2011 and 2021.

They also do not do well in CR's annual surveys.

They're still bad, and there is ample objective evidence.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by xattt »

tclancy wrote: post #541
dnpls wrote: post #525

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The exterior is just a magic mouse! At least those switches in the dashboard are real switches, not touchscreen buttons.

I feel like the real story is Jony Ive’s deep love for the Subaru SVX on display here.

Hey, leave the SVX alone!

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by somepleb »

za_creature wrote: post #46
karakoram wrote: post #2

I don't like it at all. The curves, the silhouette, does not work at all, it does not "speak" to me as a Ferrari. Again, a heritage brand ruined by an obnoxious, pesky iPad like display that has no business being in a Ferrari. The front profile is hideous too.

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And doesn't come with a charger.....

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by tcp_handshaker »

rickdeckard wrote: post #437

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

This is a disaster for Ferrari. You buy the brand, the car and its lack of reliability is well known and the difficult handling also well known. But its La Ferrari.

This is the type of car that will be seen in the hands of people buying Cybertruck or the UK chavs that now buy Rolex. The moment that happens your brand is dead. Your customers will flock away back to Buggati and Aston Martin.

Massive Ferrari mistake.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by mc32 »

tcp_handshaker wrote: post #657
rickdeckard wrote: post #437

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

This is a disaster for Ferrari. You buy the brand, the car and its lack of reliability is well known and the difficult handling also well known. But its La Ferrari. This is the type of car that will be seen in the hands of people buying Cybertruck or the UK chavs that now buy Rolex. The moment that happens your brand is dead. Your customers will flock away back to Buggati and Aston Martin. Massive Ferrari mistake.

I agree on the aesthetics drastically breaking from legacy but I very much doubt charvers will afford this car.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by WarmWash »

rickdeckard wrote: post #437

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

(Conspiracy) Plot twist:

Teams inside Ferrari despise EV's (because they lack 10,000 moving parts and loud noises), so they pushed hard for this design, ensuring a flop, and giving ferrari cold EV feet for the foreseeable future.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Post by browningstreet »

amelius wrote: post #639
rickdeckard wrote: post #437

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

The problem with cars is if you take all design constraints into consideration you will always end up with something that looks similar.

You sound like my old man who swears all coffee tastes the same. Folgers is Starbucks is Blue Bottle.
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