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Re: Google changes its search box

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Take it one step further, the ultimate endgame is everyone consuming things through their own LLM assistant In the future I don't even use Google but my bot does

I think the idea is the google is the bot

Yeah but google will inject ads, my future LLM bot will filter them out

Why would I want to be restricted to google’s “view” of the info

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post #442

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Google is not bias-free, and has not been for a long time.

Never has been. No source or tool is. It’s a noble dream that can’t be achieved

Nobody is reasonably expecting perfectly unbiased information, just reasonably unbiased, and that’s pretty easy to find

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post #416

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I see ChatGPT traffic to my website for hallucinated pages.

It means they actually clicked the link. That's what you're supposed to do!

It means that they put my name on things that I have never said about topics that I did not even cover.

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post #561

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Without some way to generate revenue, people aren't going to publish recipes (for Google to scrape into their AI.) Maybe we could live without more recipes being fed into the machine, but there are many other types of content that will suffer the same fate. It would be nice to find something better than an ad-revenue driven web, but I'm not sure this is it. We'll find out I guess...

> people aren't going to publish recipes Sure they are. I can attest that musicians will gladly publish their music even when no recompense is offered. Surely culinary artists are the same.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy6VMDXB2SQ

Re: Google changes its search box

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post #65

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Which as some running a website raises a fascinating question. If Google is just going to crawl my sites and present information as an AI summary on their site, then what exactly do I gain by allowing Googlebot to crawl my sites?

It's a catch-22. Without google crawling your site, you don't get any new traffic. But with google crawling your site, you also might not get any traffic. AI summarization has already causes issues for sites like rtings where people are no longer visiting the site but still making use of the data presented there. Leading to rtings not getting enough traffic to continue to post their data. It is an existential crisis…

> AI summarization has already causes issues for sites like rtings

Isn't Stack Exchange the emblematic case?

Re: Google changes its search box

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But ultimately that strategy is good for the consumer right? In this context, if Google is going to give me the recipe without having to scroll through the story, that seems like a win to me. The ad-revenue driven Internet of web 2.0 is finally dead and I'm not sure I'm all that sad.

But google won’t give you the recipe. It’ll give you a pretty piece of text that resembles a recipe. You’ll only find out it’s not a recipe when it fails to produce a cake. But then, the sites it's training on are starting to do the same thing, so maybe it won’t matter. Just last night, I pulled up four sites with “gluten free almond cake” recipes. One specified less than 1/4 the flour it would have needed, and anoth…

You can buy recipe books at brick and mortar stores, and they're mostly not AI slop yet.

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post #561

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Without some way to generate revenue, people aren't going to publish recipes (for Google to scrape into their AI.) Maybe we could live without more recipes being fed into the machine, but there are many other types of content that will suffer the same fate. It would be nice to find something better than an ad-revenue driven web, but I'm not sure this is it. We'll find out I guess...

> people aren't going to publish recipes Sure they are. I can attest that musicians will gladly publish their music even when no recompense is offered. Surely culinary artists are the same.

Some people will. The vast majority won’t. You are not playing for an audience, only for crawlers, so what is the point?

Re: Google changes its search box

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It's a catch-22. Without google crawling your site, you don't get any new traffic. But with google crawling your site, you also might not get any traffic. AI summarization has already causes issues for sites like rtings where people are no longer visiting the site but still making use of the data presented there. Leading to rtings not getting enough traffic to continue to post their data. It is an existential crisis…

> AI summarization has already causes issues for sites like rtings Isn't Stack Exchange the emblematic case?

Stack Exchange committed suicide by closing all the questions. It was already in a steep decline before LLMs, after it got bought by private equity and did things like firing the moderators.

Re: Google changes its search box

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post #328

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Only issue is what happens when the company that owns the search and has a dominant share of the browser market flags your site with the good old "warning: potential risk ahead" when people try to reach it directly? And buries the "I know the risk let me through" deep in the browser settings. Advocate for different browsers? Google is pushing web attestation in one form or the other. I wish the future would look blea…

> Only issue is what happens when the company that owns the search and has a dominant share of the browser market flags your site with the good old "warning: potential risk ahead" when people try to reach it directly? My target market is more technical then that so likely, nothing would change for me. Again, I recognize the impact of Google's dominance for some, but if the "attestation" isn't helpful and only hinders…

You could lose your domain name: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47151233
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