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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by mulmen »

diacritical wrote: post #629
RGamma wrote: post #610

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't underestimate tech-savy users' influence either. I could easily add 7+ people to the user base next replacement cycle.

I could add 3 off the top of my head. Probably a couple more. Privacy conscious people who aren't techies. Some have tried Linux, some don't know what a "browser" or "SD card" is. If features like phone calls, SMS, the camera and most regular apps work (especially banking apps, sadly), they'll be happy and receive free indefinite support from me. I wouldn't use banking apps myself unless they open source them, but I'…

Bank tech sucks. I’m really surprised nobody has made a good online bank experience with no-nonsense APIs. This is a great opportunity for Motorola to partner with banks that commit to supporting their platform. The right online bank could be an ideal launch partner.

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Post by crubier »

idiotsecant wrote: post #556
mckenzba wrote: post #480

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This. I was heavily involved with the Maemo community back in the day and even made an Ubuntu 9.04 port to the Nokia N800/N810. These days I'm juggling multiple responsibilities and I need to conserve my mental energy for work. I certainly credit my career on that tinkering, but these days I just want something that works so I can put my energy elsewhere.

>I need to conserve my mental energy for work. Is perhaps the saddest sentence. Whats the point of working when you don't have enough energy left to do the fun stuff?

Dealing with broken Linux installs might be your definition of fun, but it's very possible to be a nerd and not find that particular thing fun, and prefering Macbooks

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Post by system2 »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

Ah, an opensource phone so people can screw up their own security with Ai code.

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Post by Arainach »

evolve2k wrote: post #511
neya wrote: post #216

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This is just developer fantasy. The average consumer doesn't care even one bit. Is the phone smooth? Does it have a good camera? Does it have a good battery? Does it last more than 2 years? Go to some developing countries around Asia and you'll be surprised how people prioritise features when buying a phone vs developed ones. The developing countries account for most of the sales of most phone manufacturers. Phones t…

Counter-point; we are in times of mass upheaval and protest. Purchasing a secure phone is desirable to almost anyone who is increasingly worried about state and corporate actors, especially those that would seek to surveil and coerce. I suspect some will buy these phones as a daily driver, some as a second phone. Institutional trust is at an all time low, this is a smart move selling into the growing demand for secur…

Consumers, when faced with a $100 Microwave that will last 2 years and a $130 microwave that will last ten, will buy the cheaper one nearly always. They don't care.

Consumers, when faced with a phone that offers "privacy" but that doesn't work with their banking app or their favorite game, will return it and get the non-privacy phone essentially every time.

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Post by chpatrick »

BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

None of that sells phones.

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Post by nickorlow »

mayhemducks wrote: post #458

I tend to be pretty skeptical in general, so grain of salt may be required here, but I sense some irony that the Chinese government has a significant stake in Lenovo. https://easytechsolver.com/who-is-lenovo-owned-by/ https://www.kamilfranek.com/who-owns-lenovo-largest-sharehol... How did we end up touting privacy features while at the same time celebrating the acquisition of this company by a business backed by a st…

I would imagine China's goal (if any with this, which I really doubt) is to harm google by eroding their monopoly on mobile operating systems.

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Post by nickorlow »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #387

Does this mean that Google has dropped the "if you release a phone running a fork of Android you lose access to Play Services" thing?

Technically Motorola isn't releasing a running fork of android, they're just making their handsets to GOS' spec.

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Post by troyvit »

n8cpdx wrote: post #496
drnick1 wrote: post #462

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If you don't want your payments to be tracked you need to use cash or crypto. Otherwise, just use a credit card. I really don't see how unlocking a phone is easier or more convenient than using a credit card.

The watch is on my wrist, or the phone is already in my hand. The credit card is buried in a wallet that needs to be taken out of and put back into a pocket. Also “unlocking” isn’t an inconvenient step, on iPhone it just happens automatically. As it should on android if the fingerprint sensor is in a convenient location.

> The credit card is buried in a wallet that needs to be taken out of and put back into a pocket.

It's a good work-out. Almost as tough as pouring a can of soda into a glass. You'll feel the difference after just a week!

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Post by dang »

jama211 wrote: post #577
iamdamian wrote: post #526

This is, without hyperbole, the most exciting tech announcement I've read this year. I really hope something comes of it. Motorola: Please double down on this and make mobile tech consumer-friendly again.

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