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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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> What is stopping this lowlife Same as with all other crime, we hope it's the law that stops him. We hope that more policemen want to be good men than bad. The illusion of safety is based on the honor system. Society doesn't work without that.

Does it actually work like we hope it does?

it does, yeah. people love to examine exceptions and determine that the system they appeared within should be dismantled, it's all over the place.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Maybe you should change the channel from Fox News, NewsMax and "apolitical" forums. It is happening everywhere dumpty and his goon squad decides to make it happen. Do you not realize these ICE agents are Federal agents? Sure, completely incompetent, racists that choose to join so they can go after immigrants (legal or otherwise) with cover, but officially sanctioned Federal agents nonetheless. Your ignorance and acce…

Do you have reports of serious incidents between members of the public and federal agents in Florida as you allege or are you just on HN to insult people but not actually respond to their arguments? If so, what happened?

Plenty of credible reports of ICE dipshits using force on peaceful protesters. Florida tools are just too busy licking boot to be out peacefully protetsing. Keep on licking, tool.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

It reminds me of when Eric Schmidt, then CEO of google, tried that argument about people's worry of google collecting so much personal data. Some media outlet then published a bunch of personal information about Schmidt they had gathered using only google searches, including where he lives, his salary, his political donations, and where his kids went to school. Schmidt was not amused.

"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

- Eric Schmidt

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Anyone on the right who implicates Pretti for carrying a licensed firearm is a good litmus test for bad faith.

I assume the NRA are out in droves at a US citizen being executed for carrying a gun?

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

ICE and DHS already were bloated and somehow grew from not existing 25 years ago to a $100 billion budget. Then the big Trump spending bill added another $200 billion to their budget. And there’s no accountability for who gets that money - it’s all friends and donors and members of the Trump family. They have money for this grift of epic scale but complain about some tiny alleged Somalian fraud to distract the gullib…

That's in their playbook to cherry pick the most extreme cases and pretend it's the majority of cases.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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FWIW, people here illegally are already not eligible for Medicaid, [0] so it's hard to see why ICE having access to a roster of Medicaid enrollees would help them with their stated mission of enforcing removal orders. Then again, we have ICE shooting American citizens in the streets, so I guess the law is whatever they decide it is, not least because our legislative branch is uninterested in laws. https://www.congres…

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Yeah so find a forum that’s for discussing that and discuss it there. Don’t try and force people who are discussing something else to talk about politics with you. Do you also randomly go onto GitHub issues and start talking politics because the people who are talking about repo bugs are “hiding behind a bush” and should talk about the political things you think are important instead?

I don't comment on GitHub issues. I think that forums like this one should discuss politics as affected by computer code seeing as HN is one of the main (for lack of a better word) computer programmers' forums based/located in/with a focus on SV, it's not some random computer forum which specializes in some random computer programming issue. Hacker News is not lambda-the-ultimate.org, seeing them as similar is part o…

Absolutely and it's unfortunate that all essential topics that need discussion, which is the only thing that works to understand and find solutions for problems, is being flagged off the front page. Some of the flagging seems political as well, why isn't that recognized as a problem as well?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Wishful thinking but it would be real great if a future leader destroyed this infrastructure. I'm sure they'll run on not using it but when systems like this exist they tend to find applications

Reality is that once the next group is in power they keep all the same infra in place so they themselves can use it oft expanding it further. Then when they are kicked out, the next one comes in and does the same.

I dont like any of it but patriot act, covid vaccine tracking, flock, etc are all arms of the same hydra. This is just one more expanding arm of power and control in a long history of gov attempts to control populations.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Nobody thinks that. They are there for money.

That’s just not true. There are plenty of people in defense tech that clearly believe they are doing the right thing. Same with those in the military. Their version of “right” is just different than yours. To them, ensuring American hegemony is more right than whatever your definition is.

This is exactly right and why it is so dangerous. The bad guys dont think they are bad. The opposite is true.

There is the expression the road to hell is led on good intentions line with the heads of bishops.

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