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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #98
toomuchtodo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make it illegal to enable any commercial transactions within the state supporting federal agents. No food sales, no fuel sales, no hotel stays, no medical care, no rental cars. Make them drag their supply chain in like the Middle East. In state economic deplatforming.

Crazy I never thought the Third Amendment would be needed in my lifetime but I think you nailed it with this.

IANAL but has the 3rd been tested in this way? The very narrow interpretation is that you can’t be forced to let a soldier sleep on your bed. A more metaphorical interpretation would be that federal agents don’t have the constitutional authority to indefinitely occupy a locale even a state.

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Post by Rapzid »

dragontamer wrote: post #92
cocomath wrote: post #84

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Someone captured the beginning of the shooting victim’s interaction with ICE. It certainly doesn’t look as though the person is aggressive or brandishing a weapon. The DHS public statement that the victim was going to “do maximize damage and massacre law enforcement” is outrageous… https://x.com/David_J_Bier/status/2015125221938770324

Pam Bondi's Department of Justice will be worse. They're the ones who are in charge of investigating this. I expect the FBI under her to support ICE and defend them with all their might. The checks and balances at the federal level are all captured. Support Minnesota in this troubling time.

The very first thing Trump administration did after assuming office was fire almost all the Inspectors General. Seems obvious, foreboding and foreshadowing, it was to sweep away any independent oversight and accountability.

Oh boy the hand waving away at the time. Now the other shoe is dropping.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by myko »

direwolf20 wrote: post #608
yongjik wrote: post #193

At the rate things are going, I wonder if America can hold together until the midterm. The Trump regime is acting like it wants a civil war. If anyone told me in 2024 that America may see its own Tiananmen, I'd have laughed, but I'm not so sure now. I can totally see something similar at a smaller scale, and millions of Americans defending it with "it was necessary to keep law and order."

Genuine question: is this not a civil war? If this isn't a civil war, what is the difference between this and a civil war?

it is

it has been one since we, collectively, failed to make trump pay the price for his insurrection attempt

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by lovich »

defrost wrote: post #634
B1FIDO wrote: post #631

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https://youtu.be/3V65_L3sCMI?si=HushHA5YdZNJsUAk

Your source is a News Corp opinion piece ? When that talks about "lawless behaviour", it shows citizens standing on public sidewalks speaking freely (not illegal), when it asserts that citizens of MN are "funded by shadowy networks" it offers no proof to that assertion, etc.

Of course he did.

Facts don’t care about _your_ feelings.

That doesn’t mean facts don’t care about _their_ feelings.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by myko »

eudamoniac wrote: post #403
fzeroracer wrote: post #365

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The strongest interpretation of your posts is that you know exactly what you're doing, because you've done it multiple [1] times [2] now [3]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46559763 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46536148 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46515813

Please see my bio. I support ICE in principal, though not in current practice. This isn't a secret or shameful to me. If we can't have a dialogue about how to deport illegal immigrants safely, and how to get from here to a working deportation system, and the only two options are to abolish ICE or the current situation, I fear abolishing ICE is not going to be what happens. That isn't really what anyone wants. The fir…

> "they executed him because they are evil murderers"

This does appear to be the case, same with Good

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by Rapzid »

mothballed wrote: post #206
hypeatei wrote: post #201

Video of a federal agent disarming the victim before the others shot him: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1qlvpbr/footage_of_the... The lead up also does NOT show the victim threatening these agents in any way, with the gun or otherwise. Instead, they pushed a woman down and this guy tries to shield her and that's when they target him. EDIT: another angle showing the run up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Leakednews/…

It looks to me like the guy who disarmed him ND'd[] (or maybe another officer, but I see the disarmer jolt his arm in an axis parallel to the barrel at time of shot) and they all started shooting. This has happened before. Once one shot goes off they all shoot at the suspect. [] https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2015145197965881786

There is another angle from that side of the street now. A single agent unholstered and started unloading into the guy with first show square in his back. This is while the other agents where right there holding him and they all looked quite shocked. Looks like this one individual went off the reservation and sparked all the shooting.

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Post by solaire_oa »

maxerickson wrote: post #102
toomuchtodo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make it illegal to enable any commercial transactions within the state supporting federal agents. No food sales, no fuel sales, no hotel stays, no medical care, no rental cars. Make them drag their supply chain in like the Middle East. In state economic deplatforming.

Make it illegal to enable any commercial transactions within the state supporting federal agents. No food sales, no fuel sales, no hotel stays, no medical care, no rental cars. Make them drag their supply chain in like the Middle East. In state economic deplatforming. You're gonna prosecute Minnesotans for accepting cash?

You're being downvoted, I think unfairly, because this is a completely valid rebuttal.

Without going into a diatribe about how governments necessitate coercion and violence, enforcing such a "law" would indeed be counterproductive and hard to enforce, like you're indicating.

That said, mutual agreement by businesses and citizenry to make efforts to identify federal agents, then refuse to conduct business seems like it should already be entering discussions (if it isn't). Additional coercion by the local government doesn't need to enter the equation of civil disobedience.

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Post by [deleted] »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #393
dragontamer wrote: post #280

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They've already breached churches and hospitals to extract people. And they've already arrested 5-year-old minors. Its only a matter of time before they move to schools.

'They are circling our schools,' superintendent says after 5-year-old detained by ICE - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/they-are-circling-our-scho... - January 23rd, 2026

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Post by Rapzid »

hypeatei wrote: post #222
TacticalCoder wrote: post #211

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> By definition we know that dems and their publications are only going to show one angle Umm, are you just being purposefully blind? Every angle is being pushed across social media and everyone has seen them. They're all bad. There isn't some large conspiracy to make these agents look bad, what they did is bad and disgusting. I've edited my comment with another angle to make you feel better. > But somehow resisting…

I'm also not sure anyone was even "under arrest"?

Also, it's known you can't physically assault someone or pepper spray someone without expecting them to become physically protective of their bodies and resistive to physical force. It's an involuntary reaction for most people, and bad police knowingly use this to escalate violence against people while shouting "stop resisting".

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