That ship has already sailed, they are already using AI in mass to generate original looking content.
it's kind of upsetting that the first to benefit from LLMs are the scum of the internet.
It's googles fault. They are the ones who make this a viable business model. They pay the ads, and they pollute their search results with this garbage.
100% Google who are destroying this part of the internet.
In my experience it's not that there's better quality results found, but rather low quality results are skipped. There's a lot filtered by default + it's easy to click "block this domain" when you run into yet another stackoverflow copy. It means that when you're searching for code related things, you often get small relevant blogs in position 3+ rather than SEO spam. For example searching for "current time on JavaSc…
> yet another stackoverflow copy I never got why these even ever appear in Google search results (or any search results, really). It feels like it would be super trivial to identify sites that are scraped copies of other sites. Granted, without foreknowledge, the engine doesn't know which is the original. But at the very least this can be determined by a human once, and then the problem goes away forever for that par…
Maybe that scraped copy leverages doubleclick so its success is aligned with Google interests, sometimes even more than the original website.
Unless you work at Kagi I am not taking that too seriously.
It looks like their privacy policy backs this up. It’s also written in plain English, which I adore. “Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.” https://kagi.com/privacy
Not so plain. We do not (log AND associate), or we do not log AND we don’t associate? Am I supposed to believe that if their backend crashes after a user query, that can’t tell what has been queried?
Yeah you sound like someone who should not be using Windows in any way shape or form. The telemetry and lack of control? Try Linux out.
I'm wary of telemetry, but willing to accept it. It's the lack of respect that gets to me. "Yes/Maybe Later"? Showing me a fake Windows update screen once a month to try to get me to use an online account and switch to Edge? Starting a Bing search when the start menu doesn't recognize an application's name? Pre-installing games with advertisement and microtransactions? It's a commercial operating system, for Christ's…
I've been getting dialog boxes for default applications a lot lately. Ie, I've associated, say, .png with an image viewer (which is not MS), but lately when opening a .png I'd get the "what application do you want to open with?"-box, with a "Windows suggested"-app as the number two choice. That's disrespecting the choice I've made. Then, this goes for basically all non-MS default apps I've associated with.
I think Kagi sounds interesting but the business model is a tough one outside of niche HN types. E.g. I am interested but can't be bothered to pursue it as it seems like an unnecessary additional SAS model cost to my monthly budget. How does search quality really change my life? Entrenched behavior is tough to overcome especially ostensibly free products.
> How does search quality really change my life? There are tons of information workers who are dependent on search in their work – or if they're not, could work much better with good quality search. The examples are really too many to list, but it really depends on the person. When it comes to not spending a dollar, people will create the most incredible and reality-defying reasons. So I'd expect 99% of Google users…
Right, but then it doesn’t make sense for me as one of those information workers to pay for it. It’s not clear that I can get $120/year of value out of it.
I don't Work at Kagi either, but I can ready their Privacy Policy: https://kagi.com/privacy > Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account. They also double down on this in their FAQ: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/faqs.html#i-am-still-worr... I find their reasoning solid and choose to believe them (for now).
As you mentioned they don't track (for now). I mean anyone can write anything into a privacy policy and who will enforce they are sticking to them really? Usually we only see what actually happens in the background when there is a breach. For financial systems we have regular audits so rules like PCI DSS are enforced, but do we have these for search systems?
> I mean anyone can write anything into a privacy policy and who will enforce they are sticking to them really?
Dunno, but a "decent" chunk of my time went into vetting our privacy policy for my company because it is something we could be sued over.