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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by mehrdada »

deergomoo wrote: post #611
Pulcinella wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a somewhat similar situation with the 2019 16 inch Intel MBP. I wouldn't say it's too slow, but it does get embarrassingly hot during regular use. Enabling low power mode disables turbo boost and keeps it much, much cooler, but plugging into an external monitor enables the discrete graphics card and the laptop gets hot again. Going to try to get a few more years out of it hopefully until Imagination Tech's hardwar…

The 16" MBP would have been a much better machine for most people if it didn't have a dedicated GPU. The CPU got pretty toasty as-is, but adding a dGPU into the mix just turned it into a furnace. The way the thing was wired up also meant that connecting to an external display engaged the GPU, and some unacknowledged hardware or software flaw set the power/heat floor to about 20W (it's not just the minimum draw of the…

> The sad irony of it all is that I bet the vast majority of purchasers were developers like myself, who have absolutely no need for a dedicated GPU.

I would seriously doubt that. Mac sales are huge and developers must be a relatively small segment of computer users.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by jamiepenney »

iamben wrote: post #277
horsawlarway wrote: post #259

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Honestly - Pretty much every laptop Apple released from 2018 to 2021 was a complete turd. I have the 16 inch 2019 model (issued by work, I don't buy apple products) and it's... just not a good machine. It gets amazingly hot, the fans run ALL the time, the usb-c ports are flakey at best (frequently stop working after a suspend/resume cycle, or if you unplug while the machine is closed). It's got a shitty touch bar ins…

Ugh, I forgot about the battery. I'm lucky if I get a couple of hours out of it. Horrible thing.

90 minutes max for me. Awful machine.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by cehrlich »

The base model seems fine, but I'm amazed by how expensive the higher spec models are.

MacBook Air M2, 8/8 cores, 16GB, 1TB: 2189 Euro

MacBook Pro 14, 8/14 cores, 16GB, 1TB: 2479 Euro

That's too small of a difference for how much nicer the Pro is.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by skohan »

agloeregrets wrote: post #568
kbd wrote: post #557

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I compared the 14" Pro to the M2 Air and here's how it looks to me: MBP 14 base M1 Pro, 32G ram, 512hd = $2400. MBA upgraded M2, 24G ram, 512hd = $1900. Note the Air is almost a pound lighter!

Air also lacks far more ports, MiniLED, 120Hz, the M1 Pro's GPU, 8GB of ram, and cooling. I would expect the M1 Pro's Ram to be faster as well. Finally the M1 Pro supports dual display out while the M2 does not. That $500 still goes pretty far.

It depends on your priorities. Thin and light is the win for me.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by [deleted] »

scifibestfi wrote: post #409
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #177

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Long AAPL, you say? Or what else are you saying? I agree that Ive's influence will not be missed.

I would be long AAPL if they didn't have the majority of their production in China. That now poses a significant risk and Apple execs must be sweating bullets right now scrambling to onshore.

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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by nerdawson »

rootusrootus wrote: post #594
Pulcinella wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a somewhat similar situation with the 2019 16 inch Intel MBP. I wouldn't say it's too slow, but it does get embarrassingly hot during regular use. Enabling low power mode disables turbo boost and keeps it much, much cooler, but plugging into an external monitor enables the discrete graphics card and the laptop gets hot again. Going to try to get a few more years out of it hopefully until Imagination Tech's hardwar…

The 16 inch Intel MBP was a machine I wanted to love. Big lovely screen, should be fast and capable, I was stoked to get it. But on the occasion where I have to take it off the charger and attend a zoom call, it gives me maybe 90 minutes of battery life, fan going full speed the whole time, trying to melt the desktop. Fortunately I also have a 13 inch M1 MBP that has no such problem, and is easily my favorite MBP in…

I remember having to close down every app before starting a video call in an attempt to keep the fans under control.

The new 16" just does not care! I've owned it since March and haven't heard the fans once. Runs smoothly whatever I try and throw at it.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by _ph_ »

ricardobeat wrote: post #646

> A three-mic array captures clean audio using advanced beamforming algorithms Oddly, out of the entire press release, this is the part I have trouble believing. Every MBP launch announces the best microphones ever. When the first MPB 16" came out, it's gazillion-mic array was supposed to be amazing, some reviewers asking "can it replace a professional condenser microphone", yet in reality it's made completely useles…

I haven't experienced the microphones on the ARM MBP 16", but with its Intel predecessor. And there the microphones are excellent and not drowned by fan noise (assuming of course, you don't run huge compute tasks in the background during the calls, never encountered anyone doing so). I can't imagine the ARM MBP to be more noisy than the Intel one.

But specifically: the MB Air doesn't have a fan, so you won't hear fan noise while using it.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by sdf4j »

_ph_ wrote: post #657
ricardobeat wrote: post #646

> A three-mic array captures clean audio using advanced beamforming algorithms Oddly, out of the entire press release, this is the part I have trouble believing. Every MBP launch announces the best microphones ever. When the first MPB 16" came out, it's gazillion-mic array was supposed to be amazing, some reviewers asking "can it replace a professional condenser microphone", yet in reality it's made completely useles…

I haven't experienced the microphones on the ARM MBP 16", but with its Intel predecessor. And there the microphones are excellent and not drowned by fan noise (assuming of course, you don't run huge compute tasks in the background during the calls, never encountered anyone doing so). I can't imagine the ARM MBP to be more noisy than the Intel one. But specifically: the MB Air doesn't have a fan, so you won't hear fan…

Even on the Intel i9 MBP 16" having a call is a huge compute task that will unleash the fans. Regardless of Zoom, Meet or whatever videoconferencing I use.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by smcleod »

ricardobeat wrote: post #646

> A three-mic array captures clean audio using advanced beamforming algorithms Oddly, out of the entire press release, this is the part I have trouble believing. Every MBP launch announces the best microphones ever. When the first MPB 16" came out, it's gazillion-mic array was supposed to be amazing, some reviewers asking "can it replace a professional condenser microphone", yet in reality it's made completely useles…

The three-mic array on the 2021 M1 Pro is really very good, people have told me it sounds better than my Yeti Blue even with background noise.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by phendrenad2 »

lycos wrote: post #17

It's very tempting, but my MacBook Air M1 has been great and performance wise any improvement is probably barely noticeable in the day to day that I'd end up feeling like I just bought a new chassis. Which could still be nice.. although most of the time it's in clamshell attached to my monitor. I'll have to sleep on this!

Just recently bought a 2020 Intel air. It's very powerful and responsive. Would I notice a difference with an M1 or M2? Maybe, but I doubt it would be enough to justify the investment.
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