Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

New MacBook Air with M2

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

561–570 of 796 posts

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#561

Post by bastardoperator »

carlycue wrote: post #39

This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

My M1 MacBook Air is insanely fast and the battery life is easily the best I've ever experienced. If the M2 is anything like the M1 or better, I agree, these things are going to make Apple a nice chunk of change.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#562

Post by pleb_nz »

maccard wrote: post #553
loeg wrote: post #524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t believe it’s better than non-mac products.

Curious what you'd buy instead?

I had a Lenovo P15 before my current M1Pro. That thing was a machine. I got roughly the same battery life through day of dev work, got to choose my OS, it did everything perfectly. Only thing it lacked on imo was looks.

So yeah, in my experience, there are other laptops out there that are as good.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#563

Post by MisterTea »

carlycue wrote: post #39

This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

> but the silicone chips team now does.

Ah-ha! I knew they were implants!

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#564

Post by kbd »

aobdev wrote: post #428
eric-hu wrote: post #422

> Additional technical specifications and details on Apple accessories — including the 30W USB-C Power Adapter for $39 (US), 35W Dual USB-C Port Compact Power Adapter for $59 (US), 35W Dual USB-C Port Power Adapter for $59 (US) compatible with the World Travel Adapter Kit for $29 (US), and the 67W USB-C Power Adapter for $59 (US) — are available at apple.com/mac. The 35W Dual USB-C Port Compact Power Adapter is avail…

The dual power adapter is in addition to, rather than instead of, MagSafe. The cable has the magnetic connector on one end and usb-c on the other. Dual ports just lets you charge your iPhone/iPad etc. at the same time.

I can't see the value in getting the 2-port adapter over the 67w fast charge one. You could always charge your phone through your laptop if you really don't have a second power brick.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#565

Post by agloeregrets »

hbn wrote: post #410
spideymans wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the M2 Air supported two displays, I’d have no reason whatsoever to buy the expensive MacBook Pro. The M1/M2 Air is already so ridiculously overpowered for my needs. Which is probably why the Air doesn’t support two displays. Sigh.

> Which is probably why the Air doesn’t support two displays I recall reading at least with the M1 that it's actually a physical hardware limitation with the architecture inherited from the fact that the base M1 is pretty close to the A15 which never needed to pump out to more displays.

The irony being that they then made the M1 Pro and M1 Max/Ultra that support more displays. In fact, I would be okay with it running dual displays like the mac mini where the internal display is disabled when two externals are connected. The M2, made after the M1 Pro still does not support multiple displays. It's an odd omission.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#566

Post by pleb_nz »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #476
loeg wrote: post #467

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still stuck on a 2019 MBP from work. What garbage hardware. Up for a refresh in December.

Just to put things into perspective, the 2019 MBP might be worse than M1 Macs, but it's still way better than anything I've seen in the PC world (which is why Macs have been able to coast through bad decisions regarding keyboard, ports, and touchbar for so many years). That said, I'm very excited for these new ARM devices.

Last I heard a Mac is a PC. Hey even phones are PCs. They're all personal computers. In fact I would say mac's are more often PC then windows machines. Windows machines are often not personal and are used my many people in big orgs in a shared corporate fashion.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#567

Post by agloeregrets »

thunfischbrot wrote: post #238
InTheArena wrote: post #210

I'd be wary of this, until we get to the bottom of the reported thermal throttling issues with the Macbook Pro M2. That at least is actively cooled. This isn't.

Wasn't that about an extreme benchmarking test which is continuously fully utilising CPU and GPU for an extended period, like 30min? If I recall correctly, that would not influence my decision at all. I also do not select which car to get based on how far it gets with one charge if I load it with one ton of luggage, even if it were theoretically possible. I get the one which suits my needs best most of the time for a…

Something about that test rubbed me the wrong way. Like that the Package was pulling more watts than stated or some sort of bad firmware allowing for extreme temps. It's so odd to come from the M1 with nearly unused fans to being able to downright overheat the CPU so aggressively. Even the hottest tests on the M1 13inch MBP never ran the fans that high at all.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#568

Post by agloeregrets »

kbd wrote: post #557
jeswin wrote: post #243

For many in the HN audience, this may not be a good buy. You'd need to buy the 16GB + 512GB version since the bundled 256GB SSD is considerably slower than the previous gen as reported by many people. That bumps the price to $1599, which isn't significantly cheaper than the 14" MacBook Pro - which sells for $1799 on Best Buy.

I compared the 14" Pro to the M2 Air and here's how it looks to me: MBP 14 base M1 Pro, 32G ram, 512hd = $2400. MBA upgraded M2, 24G ram, 512hd = $1900. Note the Air is almost a pound lighter!

Air also lacks far more ports, MiniLED, 120Hz, the M1 Pro's GPU, 8GB of ram, and cooling. I would expect the M1 Pro's Ram to be faster as well. Finally the M1 Pro supports dual display out while the M2 does not. That $500 still goes pretty far.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#569

Post by [deleted] »

pleb_nz wrote: post #562
maccard wrote: post #553

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious what you'd buy instead?

I had a Lenovo P15 before my current M1Pro. That thing was a machine. I got roughly the same battery life through day of dev work, got to choose my OS, it did everything perfectly. Only thing it lacked on imo was looks. So yeah, in my experience, there are other laptops out there that are as good.

[deleted]

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

#570

Post by bluedino »

adrr wrote: post #416
smoldesu wrote: post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and external monitors don't require a lot of video memory per se. That depends. Your average 1080p display doesn't really use a ton of video memory, but a 5k display connected to an internal 1440p display? That's a pretty huge framebuffer. AFAIK, Quartz also has a separate video buffer for each individual window, ranging from 50-150mb for the average application. Add it all up, and I agree that 8gb is pretty low, e…

How many people are using external display on an entry level laptop? Think of all you family members and friends who aren’t in the software field. I don’t even use an external monitor on my personal laptop and its MBP 16” Pro with 32GB of ram. At most I side car an Ipad but that is more power user stuff. Air with 8 GM of ram is perfect for a personal laptop where your primary focus is web browsing, watching media and…

> How many people are using external display on an entry level laptop?

Everyone from the sounds of it. Half the threads on /r/mac are from people that want to connect 2/3 monitors to their M1 MacBooks

Post reply on HN