GitHub’s engineering team has moved to Codespaces

Post by vbezhenar » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:03 AM UTC

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #648

monsieurbanana wrote: post #588

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> I suggested the concept be made available as being by devs, for devs, purposed as a personal coach, with no uplink to the mothership. Ah yes, the classic "foot in the door" approach. Despite all the good intentions behind it, it still would end badly.

As long as there's more demand than supply for SWE workers, something like that would never become the norm. All of the dystopic news stories of WFH employees being subject to monitoring are invariably from fungible employees.

Post by aitchnyu » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 9:45 AM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #601

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More than that, github was floundering economically, and Microsoft bought them to ensure continuity, because Microsoft was the single largest user. Don't want to rely on Microsoft for GitHub? The underlying 'git' is open source. Just deal with your git repos raw. No one is forcing you to use github.

Github wasn't profitable but had plenty of marketshare to guarantee more funding. Also Microsoft has plenty of infrastructure and did not need Github. How do you think Windows and Office were built for decades?

Post by madeofpalk » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:02 AM UTC

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bogwog wrote: post #358

Serious question: if I were to use this, would Microsoft collect analytics on me (code written, keystrokes, mouse movements, sleep/work schedule, productivity metrics, etc) and monetize that data by using it to build some AI product like Copilot, or build a productivity dashboard so managers can fire people for not being productive enough (like Xsolla did), use it to serve me ads, or do some stupid/irresponsible/unet…

If a business is paying for this product, then THEY (not you) are the customer. And in that context - yes, Microsoft may be asked or build a product for managers to manage their workforce, particularly if remote. This could involve presence tracking, engagement tracking (ie, do you open alerts / read your bug reports) etc. One approach would be to monitor what management considers productive / successful employees an…

Post by madeofpalk » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:10 AM UTC

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BiteCode_dev wrote: post #310

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So how do you edit media files, using some ssh fuse mount magic ? What happen when you need to work from a shitty internet network ? In train ?

> So how do you edit media file This only does code. You'd probably have to do those locally and SCP them over or, yeah, some mount magic. > What happen when you need to work from a shitty internet network ? In train ? You'd have to commit your work, but you'd be able to bring the environment up on your laptop. There are still merits to this, such as the repeatable nature of containers. Depending on where you've work…

Post by heleninboodler » Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 10:41 AM UTC

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I don’t know if this is a good indicator or not, but Codespaces costs money. So there is a non-zero probability that you are not the product.

> Codespaces costs money. It's going to be paid by your employer which leads to GP's concern about, > or build a productivity dashboard so managers can fire people for not being productive enough (like Xsolla did) Which is more likely. If your employer sets something like this up - will they use it to calculate a productivity score and use that for lay offs? Seems rather probable to me.