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Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#652Earlier quoted context omitted.
They will get smashed for this eventually
The are betting on that "eventually" being many many miles down the road. They will fix some of the issues/cases (ad hoc) for the vocal minority, they will pretend they didn't see for the silent majority that suffers from the same side effects. As a parent stated, the content creators are NOT the clients. Client is the one who pays you money. So advertisers need to be kept happy. If this guy goes down, the guitar mak…
Your comment is cold but it's also bang on point. Ethically how they act is inexcusable however. I hope many years is actually a few months in reality.
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#653> I run a YouTube channel that is over 10 years old , has over 770,000 subscribers , almost 600 public videos , 120,000,000 views When writing software involved in managing a live, public, massively multi-user system, the traditional unix-style commands that are immediate, often silent, and capable of damaging effects become a really easy way to shoot yourself in the foot. Worse, some commands might let you accidenta…
Two days ago I restored a customer's data from backup because they typed "ALL" and hit OK on a dialog that said "This will change ALL of your things, type ALL to confirm". This dialog only pops up if N > 100, and normally makes you type the number (ALL is a special case). I just do not know how to make this more idiotproof short of making them fax in the request. No matter what you think is sane, some insane person w…
Don't allow the user type "all", but another guy (admin) to verify such commands.
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#654Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is on content creators to diversify their business. If a contractor has only a single customer ... Yes, this is the monopoly part of the argument. There are no real and practical alternatives for content creators, it seems.
I did see a non YouTube video link on HN recently...
The definition of monopoly isn't the absence of alternatives, it's the absence of significant alternatives, and the fact that monopoly distorts the surrounding ecosystem.
Killing small businesses definitely counts as a market distortion. Good luck arguing it doesn't.
And there is no competitive service, because YT is an audience provider, and not specifically a video hosting provider.
In fact these problems would go away if YT offered a paid tier - with proper support - for content providers.
But YT and Google are averse to treating anyone else as an equal partner, so that's never going to happen.
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#655Is there anybody here who can give an insider's view on this case? I'm aware of the problems of scaling support to a huge scale, and contexts where the communication of the termination causes is an issue in itself (e.g. to protect internal business logic). However, in cases like this, being hostile seems an intentional decision - specifically, by hiding the reasons. Is this truly intentional on Google's side?
The question seems odd to me. How could the letter he received, its tone, and everything else in this case be unintentional?
I'm trying to play devil's advocate, in order to better understand the real-world dynamics of support at large scale.
Every once in a while, some insider pops in discussions like this, and says "you don't know support at large scale etc.etc.".
Therefore, with both sides of the story at hand, a productive assessment could be done.
To clarify, I do think Google has a just "f*ck them all" approach to support; for example, there could be paid support plans for people who made a large investment. But I need to hear the devil :-)
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#656Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "bullet" in this analogy is AWS's notoriously high cost.
Notorious in what way? The price charts are all publicly available. Anyone can check for themselves what the costs are.
True, but due to the large extent of the services provided/required, it's very hard to know the unexpected costs, even if one has experience.
For example, one will hardly think of the cost of the disk speed (IOPS, in AWS), before moving to AWS. Then, they will suddenly have to deal with it (note that IOPS will be mostly opportunity costs, in case one doesn't choose provisioned IOPS of larger capacity).
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#657Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://vimeo.com/ ? Although they seem to market themselves more towards the indie filmmaker market.
Yes - why don't more people use Vimeo? I know that they have limits on uploads, especially on the free tier, but it's worth paying for because at least they know you're a customer and not a product. For $900 a year you get 7 TB of video and unlimited live streaming. Yes, YouTube is cheaper (free) and brings a large audience. So you have to balance paying for something that's certain or being at the whim of the market…
> why don't more people use Vimeo?
I believe it's because YouTube is as much a content-discovery platform as a content-delivery platform. If you only use Vimeo, very few people will discover your videos.
I don't know why more people don't upload to both, though.
> whim of the market maker
As I understand it, Vimeo are also far from perfect in this regard.
An interesting anecdote: the recent Michael Moore film, Planet of the Humans, was made freely available on YouTube, but was taken down after a copyright complaint. They moved the video to Vimeo, where it remains. (I can't comment on the legitimacy of the copyright complaint, and this is not an endorsement of the film.)
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#658Here is my pet theory.
Most of YouTube's content moderation work is performed by an AI that was given the power to delete videos and channels, without informing anyone, including the human part of YT support, of its artificial nature, instead passing it off as some kind of "content oversight council" or something along those lines, and having someone occasionally write communications on its behalf.
It would explain the absolutely massive discrepancy between the public and the content moderators: there are often highly morally questionable videos and channels that are still up to this day, while relatively minor offenders are often struck down with no option of recourse for seemingly no reason.
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#659The fact that Google/Youtube has zero support infrastructure should be evidence that they are a monopoly and engaging in monopolistic activity. If Google/Youtube were NOT a monopoly, they would have invested significant amount of money in customer support. However, there is zero. The only reason they get away with this is because they have a monopoly. They are saving hundreds of millions in support costs by not deliv…
I think so too. If they were not a monopoly they'd have content creators fleeing the platform for how they handle these type of situations but for many youtube provides a decent source of income. Content creators respected their part of the bargain and worked hard to build their channels and Google benefitted quite well. But they're not only not equal, one zero power and the other one has all of it.
There have been attempts to fight the Youtube/Google platform, Patreon in a way is fighting against the Youtube ad revenue as a channels main source of income, so channels can survive on their own. Linus tech tips is creating their own video platform called Float-plane aiming to also do the same.
Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]
#660Alternative Video Sites : https://lbry.tv/ https://www.dailymotion.com/ https://www.bitchute.com/ https://dlive.tv/ https://bittube.tv/
Queue the responses of how people don't or won't use it because it's too small, but they will complain YouTube has a monopoly.
I don't know what you guys expect to happen if you just keep using YouTube... Do you expect some benevolent spirit to fly down on a fairy chariot and "break up YouTube"?
Y'all just want to complain but do nothing else.