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Spotify signs ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’ to an exclusive multi-year deal

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Post by seumars »

rs23296008n1 wrote: post #528
voz_ wrote: post #259

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Banning Alex Jones is a good thing.

I'm no longer convinced of that. He should be kept in the light where we can see him and respond. Kept in the outer fringe he will operate in a bubble and the others who are attracted to him will also exist in that bubble. This also means no opposing views to pop that bubble. I actually think this is worse for society overall. The more light shining on him to keep him honest the better.

>This also means no opposing views to pop that bubble.

But then you have the backfire effect. It'd be naive to assume everyone else is or can be as rational as yourself.

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Post by afiori »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #488
dang wrote: post #357

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> It isn't feminist for women's bodies to be brutalized by men's bodies. If you broach the topic in this way—jumping straight to an inflammatory statement on one of the most divisive of all topics—you're guaranteeing a flamewar. That's vandalism, nay, trolling. It breaks the site guidelines, damages this place badly, and you've done it more than once before. You also committed to us that you wouldn't to do it again.…

How is that even remotely inflammatory? It’s the truth.

Did you also know that the government add hydroxyl acid (a chemical commonly found in cancer cells and many vaccines) in the water supplies of many cities? Sometimes it is even illegally used to accelerate vegetable growth for our own food.

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Post by cameronbrown »

chroma wrote: post #575
raverbashing wrote: post #555

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People here don't "understand" why Alex Jones is being ostracized because they (or the people they support) are not the target of their antics. What if instead of persecuting 5G installers he was peddling persecution of FAANG employees? Would that be cool with the audience here?

I have a neighbor who has a "Queers Hate Techies" sticker on his car. I don't like it, but I don't want him banned from YouTube or Twitter or wherever he's saying crazy stuff.

If you had a sticker saying the exact opposite - would you expect to get banned?

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Post by afiori »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #480
jessaustin wrote: post #223

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Most people agree with Rogan that transgender women who have only recently started on female hormones should not hide that status from biologically female opponents in mixed martial arts. It isn't feminist for women's bodies to be brutalized by men's bodies.

How the fuck is this comment flagged? This is not controversial at all. To think otherwise is truly absurd.

It is flagged as flamebait, not specifically controversial.

Flamebait is about tone and formulation, not necessarily facts

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Post by MadSudaca »

virvar wrote: post #594
busymom0 wrote: post #122

I agree with JRE leaving YouTube over the censorship but I disagree with him moving exclusively to spotify for following reasons: 1. Spotify was the one who conspired with Facebook, Apple and Google to ban Alex Jones and others. So if Joe is moving off of YouTube because he doesn't like the censorship, he's not getting anything better with Spotify. 2. Currently, Spotify doesn't have video (except album cover clips wh…

I always found America’s grips on these things a tad weird. In my country you’re accountable to print the truth, and if you don’t, it comes with fines or even prison time. Because lying to the public is dangerous. That hasn’t stopped opinion pieces, but it has stopped media outlets from printing things like “the earth is flat” or “drinking bleach cures covid”. Unfortunately this is yet to apply to social media stars,…

What if your country's government becomes corrupt and starts using its power to enforce "truth" against its citizen's own interests?

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Post by midasz »

Anon1096 wrote: post #447
paulcole wrote: post #256

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There’s no shortage of companies who value money more than morals. Those affected can host their sites with one of them.

Really? 8chan was unable to find any hosts for a very long time, and its future is still uncertain.

Lots of people in New Zealand and El Paso won't shed a tear for that fact.

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Post by sails »

HankB99 wrote: post #167
xerxesaa wrote: post #153

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It's available as an rss feed that can be consumed by any podcast player. It's not just YouTube.

"exclusive" From the second paragraph of the article "The show will hit Spotify September 1, and become exclusive to the platform later in the year." Doesn't this mean it will no longer be available via the RSS feed? Edit: typo

IMO this is the headline point here, walled gardens for podcasts is terribly sad.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

icpmacdo wrote: post #13

Rogan said in his instagram post the podcast will stay free, I don’t think this will drive down listenership. With spotify hosting the content he will be able to have Jamie pull up lots more because of fair use, YouTube’s ContentId won’t pull the videos and steal the ad revenue. I think this is the biggest motivation for the move as he is often frustrated with that issues. Also continuing to put clips on YouTube will…

> I don’t think this will drive down listenership

I do, I think his podcast has benefited massively from being pushed out by the YT algorithm. Think a not insignificant percentage of his listeners didn't even get into it because they were looking for a podcast but because they were watching a YT video and the algorithm fed them a clip or an episode.

His format became so popular on YT that YouTubers started to replicate it.

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Post by beefbroccoli »

cycomanic wrote: post #636
koheripbal wrote: post #571

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I hate Alex Jones, but I have to agree. There's a difference between being kicked out of a restaurant for being an ass, vs being kicked out of EVERY restaurant on Earth for the rest of your life - without due process. These online services aren't small mom/pop shops that you can just replace and patronize another. They are global near-monopolies that you cannot function without. Google isn't just my search provider -…

So where were you when the Isis videos were taken off YouTube and ISIS twitter accounts were deleted? The thing is the outcry always only comes when companies don't want to be associated with some right-wing nutjobs hate speech, while I never hear the same people shouting that ISIS promo videos should not be taken down because of censorship. If all censorship is always bad, why not complain about those cases? Call me…

If I advocate for criminal activity and my advocacy is likely to produce said criminal activity, that speech is not protected.

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Post by afiori »

slg wrote: post #269
voz_ wrote: post #257

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People born as men who transition to women, and I fully support them, have unfair advantages against people born as women. Would you agree with that statement? A better solution would be to allow a gender-agnostic bracket alongside women and men, where anyone can compete. To people downvoting me: Please use the upvote/downvote as marking my contribution relevant or irrelevant, not to mark disagreement. PS: I fully su…

The part of that first statement that I question is the "unfair" part. Almost all world class athletes are born with a natural gift that most of us don't have. Most of those athletes need to train and hone that gift over decades to be truly elite, but that natural gift is still present. No matter how many hours I train playing basketball and no matter how long Lebron James goes without touching a basketball, I am nev…

In many sports there is actually no rule that forbid women to joining the other championship.

The reason a separate women sport exist is the same as why there are weight brackets in boxing, to allow athletes that score lower in brute-metrics to compete reasonably. Trans women would be less of an issue if women sports did not exist.

(Trans men are a different issue if they take hormones, as that often fall under doping technically)

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