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Nuclear weapons have been a strictly self defense capability since 1945 I don't know why the White House is crying about Iran getting them.
> I don't know why the White House is crying about Iran getting them. How does one not see a problem with terrorists(i.e. the Islamic regime in Iran) getting nuclear weapons?
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> because of the Epstein files. > The stupidity is astounding. They "released the files" and handed out binders of Epstein documents to influencers. There was a ton of posting as though something monumental had happened. They were entirely comprised pre-existing publicly released information. That's how much the admin respects the intelligence of its base and that's how much its loudest supporters think things throug…
> They were entirely comprised pre-existing publicly released information. This is not true. This is in fact straightforwardly false.
There was an initial release of "binders" to known rightwing influencers in a choreographed photo event. It was a predominantly bullshit release that pissed off the conspiratorial wing of MAGA and the Epstein Republicans (Massie et al). This happened in early 2025.
The blowback from this event resulted in Congress passing the Epstein Transparency Act in Nov. 2025.
The biggest dump of files came after this (tho congressmen are claiming most files are still unreleased) , which is what you might be referring to.
But feel free to argue your point either way.
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> I don't know why the White House is crying about Iran getting them. How does one not see a problem with terrorists(i.e. the Islamic regime in Iran) getting nuclear weapons?
After you say why you don't have a problem with the Israeli terrorists having them already.
There are no "Israeli terrorists" in control of Israel's nuclear weapons, the government of Israel is certainly not controlled by terrorists like the Iranian government is.
Israel also does not have a policy of destroying Iran, while Iran does have a clear policy of destroying Israel[0].
There's a clear difference in their ideologies as well, the Islamic government of Iran clearly believes in dangerous ideologies like Martyrdom and Jihad(holy war), organizations with these sort of ideological beliefs should never be allowed to have nuclear weapons because typical deterrence strategies like mutually assured destruction are unlikely to be effective.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Israel_in_Irani...
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It's not rhetoric. I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just explaining how things work. Since the other countries largely lack the ability to act, their support or lack thereof is irrelevant. The US and Israel have no incentive to apologize or pay restitution; more likely outcomes are that they either escalate, or unilaterally disengage and leave others to clean up the mess.
The world does have another much better option: they can pay the Iranian ransom and call it a day. No need to participate in another war.
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The peaceful daughters mother's and sisters protest you think happened resulting in thousands of people killed were really men with machine guns backed by the CIA and Israel trying to give Trump justification for invading.
That is not what the videos that came out showed. Of course, now Iran has shudown the internet so information can not get in out. Spin harder. The truth is after the start of this war Iran has been importing Shia militias members from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to be their enforcers because the Islamic regime does not have legitimacy with the Iranian populace.
It looks like you fell for it. Here's the real story with details on how they were able to fool you and the media you rely on. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-ir...
You can't blindly accept everything being fed to you.
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It's not rhetoric. I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just explaining how things work. Since the other countries largely lack the ability to act, their support or lack thereof is irrelevant. The US and Israel have no incentive to apologize or pay restitution; more likely outcomes are that they either escalate, or unilaterally disengage and leave others to clean up the mess.
> Since the other countries largely lack the ability to act, their support or lack thereof is irrelevant. How is their support, or lack thereof, irrelevant to our discussion that is literally about whether they support the war? Here is a reminder of the topic, from the post you replied to: > Assisting the US with regard to Iran is phenomenally unpopular. The increase in energy prices isn't outweighing people's desire…
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After you say why you don't have a problem with the Israeli terrorists having them already.
> After you say why you don't have a problem with the Israeli terrorists having them already. There are no "Israeli terrorists" in control of Israel's nuclear weapons, the government of Israel is certainly not controlled by terrorists like the Iranian government is. Israel also does not have a policy of destroying Iran, while Iran does have a clear policy of destroying Israel[0]. There's a clear difference in their i…
Also, are you just patently unaware? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
Also you didn't state why Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons.
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Fair enough. There are a multiple additional reasons why the UK can no longer afford an expeditionary military to protect their overseas interests, but the full explanation can't fit into an HN comment. The exact reasons aren't relevant to the current state of affairs, the main point is that they lack the capability to do anything even if they wanted to.
The simple reason is, the british stopped being a big empire in the wave of decolonisation. They lost most of their colonies. Not just for military reasons, but human progress. Self determination of people etc. So had no need or funds to sustain a mighty global fleet anymore. (And health care sounds like a way more useful thing to fund, than the capability to wage war around the globe) Maybe the US needs to learn tha…
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Iran has been funding terrorists for decades and the IRGC has murdered tens of thousands of Iranians. There are no reparations for terrorists getting their comeuppance.
> Iran has been funding terrorists for decades Americans not understanding that half of the world says the same thing about them is the funniest shit ever... Propaganda is one hell of a drug
We agree with them. Their regime needs to go.
In the US, we will be rid of the current administration in less than 3 years and MAGA will end with it. If the Iranian people had the same choice American citizens do, they would have voted their regime out and current events would be very different.
Here we are.
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I have nothing against china, and I have no interest in the companies operating from our soil. They certainly view us with contempt.
I am talking about geopolitical security.
But there is certainly no future where China is somehow a junior partner.