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Iran starts Bitcoin-backed ship insurance for Hormuz strait

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Post by EthanHeilman »

YZF wrote: post #376
EthanHeilman wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think "Iran was considering a peace deal" is a bit of a stretch here. Iran was considering a peace deal. I agree that the most plausible was they would reject it. > What does Iran still have to lose? Well, a lot. The US could do this, sure, but then Iran would have even less to lose. This might work if the US started small and threatened escalation to try to compel Iran, but the US started at massive escalation s…

The Iran/Iraq war is why I made the edit about US vs. Iraq. Just because Iran and Iraq fought for years does not mean Iran or Iraq are able to fight a super power. They can not. Iran does not think they are dealing with a madman. I don't believe for a second that they think that if all the demands made of them are met someone will harm them just for the fun of it. The maximalists demands. The problem is those maximal…

> Iran does not think they are dealing with a madman.

No one knows but the Iranian leadership. The Iranian leadership has been famously bad at modeling the intentions and motivations of other nations leaderships. A bolt of the blue decapitation strike, followed by the US having plan if Iran closes the straits which is the obvious response by Iran, does at face value appear to be the work of a madman. Now in the US we might conclude that Trump and Hegseth are just wildly incompetent and unprepared, but it seems likely to me that Iranian leadership see irrationality instead of incompetence.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

mattmaroon wrote: post #315
SubiculumCode wrote: post #238

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Geography prevents most people from exerting the form of control Iran has. It would be much more difficult for, say, Canada to control it. The Iranian coastline is pretty favorable. Also, most governments are more susceptible to being bombed than Iran. They’ve been preparing for it for decades. If nearly any country (except for maybe a couple of Irans neighbors) tried, they’d be easily routed.

Iran is getting a lot of help from Oman, so perhaps thats a place to start.

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Post by DarkUranium »

throw310822 wrote: post #298
elzbardico wrote: post #207

Let’s be frank. Iran could have built at least crude gun type fission bombs since they reached industrial scale for enrichment. And this being very dismissing of Iranian scientific and technological capabilities. Given modern computer consumer hardware, I don’t see why they couldn’t even have built implosion lens based fission devices without testing. DPRK would probably provide them with all the data they needed for…

Besides, nuclear weapons are- if usable at all- a defensive weapon. The claim that Iran would attack Israel with nuclear weapons is primarily meant to suggest that they're crazy fanatics blinded by such a hatred that they would be happy to destroy themselves together with their enemy. On the other hand, I'm not exactly sure why Iran doesn't give up all its nuclear capabilities. It would cost them nothing except pride…

You don't need a truthful reason to have an excuse. Remember the whole Iraq WMD debacle?

Or, for that matter, Ukraine giving up its nuclear capabilities.

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Post by kleton »

Arubis wrote: post #383
kleton wrote: post #240

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It would not be that stunning, given that a much poorer Iranic country decisively defeated the U.S. in a ~20 year war ending only a few years ago.

I presume you mean Islamic. More to the point, Iran has been preparing for war with the US for decades. The US prepared for _this_ war with Iran for a couple of weeks.

No, I meant Iranic. Pashtun and Parsi "Dari" speakers are canonically Iranic ethnic groups.

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Post by ceejayoz »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #397
ceejayoz wrote: post #375

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Is it? Russia’s making 60k Shaheds a year, and they are in the middle of an active conflict that has other needs.

60k / year = about 180 per day = 7 per hour. there are so many options from coil guns, to lasers, to jammers, to non-nuclear EMP's, ... that don't involve the caricature of a million dollar missile intercepting it.

You’re proposing largely experimental or theoretical solutions to a today problem.

And the Ukraine war has demonstrated the issues with jammers.

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Post by lordchair »

elevation wrote: post #255

You're the US and you're planning a 51% attack in a few weeks which will reverse NK and Iranian fortunes and claim the BTC of anyone who helped them. Any other objectives?

A 51% attack doesn't allow you to steal other people's coins, nor does it let you easily alter deep historical transactions. To rewrite the past, an attacker would have to continuously outpace the rest of the network to rebuild the chain from that exact point forward. The primary threat of a 51% attack is that the attacker could double spend their own coins or censor or block specific transactions.

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Post by toast0 »

stickfigure wrote: post #326
SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #249

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> The actual blunder was exposing that weakness to the world. The world already knew. The real strength of the prior admins was in simply not needing the military force. The 2015 Iran nuclear deal is a relevant example here. It didn't cost the US anything .

It did, however, allow the Khomeini regime to murder its own citizens with impunity. So someone paid.

The Khomeini regime was always allowed to murder its own citizens, within its borders, with impunity. That's one of the priviledges of a sovereign state.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

mooktakim wrote: post #352
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #345

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"Waters were open before America existed." The United States formed our Navy because of Islamic Pirate/Slavers causing a lack of open waters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_corsairs "The Barbary threat led directly to the United States founding the United States Navy in March 1794."

Lol let's not talk about slavery when it comes to the USA

We should always talk about, challenge, and address slavery. Always.

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Post by nradov »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #368
nradov wrote: post #366

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So what? Attacking Iran was a stupid move, but the US and Israeli regimes don't particularly care about the other victims whining. If other countries are going to make themselves dependent on fossil fuels from the Persian Gulf region then they'll either have to secure their own sea lines of communication or accept that supplies are unreliable. Asking for apologies or payments won't accomplish anything. That is the ge…

> the US and Israeli regimes don't particularly care about the other victims whining This does seem to be true of israel, but as for the USA, it does not, hence the USA limiting their attacks. > If other countries are going to make themselves dependent on fossil fuels from the Persian Gulf region then they'll either have to secure their own sea lines of communication or accept that supplies are unreliable. This sort…

It's not rhetoric. I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just explaining how things work. Since the other countries largely lack the ability to act, their support or lack thereof is irrelevant. The US and Israel have no incentive to apologize or pay restitution; more likely outcomes are that they either escalate, or unilaterally disengage and leave others to clean up the mess.

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Post by bdangubic »

yongjik wrote: post #162
Jensson wrote: post #91

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But this stalemate benefits US corporations by raising the price for oil, so its not really hurting the attacker. In order to hurt a plutocracy like USA you need to hurt the American stock market but American stocks are doing great.

Trump is at -20% net approval and it's steadily getting worse even now. Seems like most Americans don't decide whether things are going great by looking at S&P 500.

neither he nor people that will decide 2026 election give a hoot about his net approval rating. they should not even poll this. the only thing worth polling is few states that could swing the election one way or another (and this is even smaller number than normal for upcoming midterms). what americans think on the whole has stopped mattering awhile ago…
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