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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.

Wait what, so they're testing giving new users misleading information about included services in each tier as an upsell tactic?

A/B test to see how people react to changing the offerings

5000 angry users who leave? maybe keep it. 500000 users leave? pretend it was just documentation mis-prints or an oversight, etc.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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None of the companies I deal with (~40) are on the API. Some where, but that experiment lasted a month. Until they go public, we are all just guessing.

CC has such egregious API subsidies that it’s hard to not to leverage it unless the license tells an enterprise otherwise. Love the subsidized pricing while it lasts.

Some days I really wish the timing had worked out for me to build a serious private inference server before hardware prices spiked.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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> Individual users barely matter. Individuals are the ones that push for new tools at work though.

A fraction of them do. Many just use whatever the employer provides to get their job done. HN users only represent a small sample of the overall software developers which is nowhere nearly enthusiastic about new things. Source: what I witnessed at my company

This is facts. Most of the devs at the huge companies Anthropic and the like try to court are using Copilot since it comes with MS365.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Maybe they're putting out a weather balloon to test sentiment. That way when they're caught they can just point at the other page to say it was just a mistake.

Confirmed, 2% of users don't see Claude code included https://x.com/i/status/2046724659039932830

As if we could just blindly trust what he said :/ Could be 2, could 30, who knows (well, they do, but not us)

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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I ran OpenCode + GLM-5.1 for three weeks during my vacation. It’s okay. It thinks a lot more to get to a similar result as Claude. So it’s slower. It’s congested during peak hours. It has quirks as the context gets close to full. But if you’re stuck with no better model, it’s better than local models and no models. I have to say, OpenCode’s OpenUI has taught me what modern TUIs can be like. Claude’s TUI feels more li…

To be clear, was OpenCode a better in your opinion compared to ClaudeCode?

Better UI, worse model (GLM), probably slightly worse agentic runtime.

In spite of how glitchy Claude feels, it makes decisions fast.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Agriculture, oil drilling, trucking, etc...

The machines in those sectors do not cost nearly as much as doing the same work manually. Not even close.

Of course not, but they cost more than the person using them, it's multiplying the productivity of that person, so if AI multiplied enough as well it would make sense.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Same loved them, told my team about them, got them to switch off of cursor, now I'm telling them to swap to Codex. Anthropic really pissed me off with their harness crap. They're well within their rights but their communication over it was enough to get me to swap. I don't need extra hurdles when there's a perfectly valid alternative right there. They don't have the advantage they think they do.

I think we are inevitably heading to using the cheap Chinese models like Kimi, GLM, and Minimax for the bulk of engineering tasks. Within 3-6 months they will be at Opus 4.6 level.

This is possibly a hot take but recently I've been having about as much luck with Composer 2 in Cursor as I have with Opus 4.6 in Claude Code.

Opus is obviously the better model, but Cursor's "harness" is doing so much heavy lifting in terms of just magically supplying the broader context the model needs to understand the ramifications of its edits.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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What do you think of things you purchased changing over time into something you didn't purchase?

That's literally any software subscription ever.

Well, duh, that's precisely what's wrong with subscriptions.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Until magically all their demand vaporizes. I suspect a lot of people are like me. They got into this at the $20/month level individually to check things out. I'm not stressing things out, so I haven't moved up, but the moment I bump into a limit, I'll pull the trigger by default. Until then, I'm the sleeping dog, and you should let me lie. Well, Anthropic decided to kick me. Now, I'm investing the time to figure out…

I don't think they need the $20/month users when there are some who use over $1000 in tokens per day.

I know of 4 companies that are already starting to stomp down on the AI whales using the "$1000 per day". There was the cost of the entire AI usage of the company and then there was the cost of about a half-dozen people who dwarfed it individually.

So, we've established a hard upper ceiling for what AI can extract per user at roughly $100K and more realistically at $10K per year. Basically, if using the AI costs the same as a human salary, it's going to get pushback. I mean, the whole point was to get rid of those pesky human salaries, after all.

So, there are about 2 million-ish software jobs in the US? It's more than 1 million but a far cry from 10 million. So that pencils in at $20 billion in the US per year total? That means that if an AI company literally won all the US software programmers, it would be worth max $200 billion to be bought out (10x revenue).

Now how much investment have the AI companies taken? Yeah, roughly that. And investors are going to want quite a bit more than that back.

Even if they had zero delivery costs, the AI companies are cooked long term. The moment your number bumps into "All the X in the US/World", you've got a problem.

Short term? Greater fool theory applies. And there appear to be a lot of them.

And all this is before we start getting into people exploring the open models. Most people were like me; we started on something like Claude and just stayed put because it was straightforward. Now that we've been kicked, we'll start looking at the other options.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Why would you even want a Claude subscription if not for Claude Code? Anthropic is obviously the best for programming, but probably nowhere else. Seems like a good way to onboard people to the Claude Code experience...everyone who's working seriously with it needs Opus, anyway. But, maybe that's the rub, if the Pro plan includes no Opus usage (which I think has always been the case), you might have a worse impression…

People subscribed to chatgpt before there was codex. Why wouldnt a Claude subscription stand on its own without Claude Code? In fact it’s probably a smart move for Anthropic to split it out.

Because Claude Code provides me more value than simply a chat agent. Claude Code is the only thing I pay for. I can do chat things with the free tier across all the LLMs.
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