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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by diacritical »

godelski wrote: post #624
seniorThrowaway wrote: post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm forced to use Microsoft products and they're actively hostile to Linux How so? Powershell has openSSH built in now, and WSL2 basically works minus some annoying behavior and caveats. I have a Windows 11 laptop and I use it like you are saying as an ssh machine and web browser without much issue.

> WSL2 basically works minus some annoying behavior and caveats. It is a lot of annoying things. Everything is just so clunky and I don't think it is surprising given that it is a subsystem. At least in the mac I can still access the computer I'm typing on through the terminal. I mean yeah, I can do that with Winblows but it is non-native and clunky. I mean ever try to open a folder with a few hundred images in it? (…

What setup do you use for seeing image previews (or the images themselves?) on a terminal in Linux?

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by encom »

godelski wrote: post #618
ray_v wrote: post #598

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At _least_ you're not forced to use Microslop. But that's been a pretty common refrain from a lot of devs - the Macbook is the lesser of two evils.

I've been given a Winblows machine in the past. My boss thought he was doing me a favor because it was a powerful machine... Sorry... all I need is ssh...

Why not just install Debian (or whatever) on it, instead of suffering Windows?

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by seniorThrowaway »

godelski wrote: post #624
seniorThrowaway wrote: post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm forced to use Microsoft products and they're actively hostile to Linux How so? Powershell has openSSH built in now, and WSL2 basically works minus some annoying behavior and caveats. I have a Windows 11 laptop and I use it like you are saying as an ssh machine and web browser without much issue.

> WSL2 basically works minus some annoying behavior and caveats. It is a lot of annoying things. Everything is just so clunky and I don't think it is surprising given that it is a subsystem. At least in the mac I can still access the computer I'm typing on through the terminal. I mean yeah, I can do that with Winblows but it is non-native and clunky. I mean ever try to open a folder with a few hundred images in it? (…

Ok, I still don't see how that's "hostile to linux" and not just windows being crappy, which it is.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by DANmode »

neya wrote: post #216
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

This is just developer fantasy. The average consumer doesn't care even one bit. Is the phone smooth? Does it have a good camera? Does it have a good battery? Does it last more than 2 years? Go to some developing countries around Asia and you'll be surprised how people prioritise features when buying a phone vs developed ones. The developing countries account for most of the sales of most phone manufacturers. Phones t…

> Is the phone smooth? Does it have a good camera? Does it have a good battery? Does it last more than 2 years?

Currently, yes. These are easily achieved bars for a Graphene piece.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by DANmode »

spaceribs wrote: post #612
jama211 wrote: post #573

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There’s a huge amount of wishful thinking in this that people will care, and the Lenovo thing is just false.

People won't care until they do. After two years of talking up mastodon/pixelfed and most folks ignoring me, I've gotten 2 pings from family members about signing up and migrating off of twitter/instagram. It's only a matter of time and how quickly the rug gets pulled out from under folks I think.

and network effects.

Maybe their closer contacts disappeared…

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by aniviacat »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #306
jeroenhd wrote: post #201

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Mobile payments used to work without any interference from Google through a bank's own implementation of the wireless payment protocols. On iPhone you got stuck with Apple's system (they restricted their NFC stack so competitors couldn't do this) but most phones were paying wirelessly without Google ever seeing a transaction. Over the years banks phased out their NFC support and all moved to Google Wallet on Android,…

> used to work without any interference from Google Google owns the operating system. If they want to see what the apps are doing, they can. This is like believing that Facebook can't read your whatsapp messages because they're E2E. They own the interface!

That's what GrapheneOS is for

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by DANmode »

godelski wrote: post #618
ray_v wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At _least_ you're not forced to use Microslop. But that's been a pretty common refrain from a lot of devs - the Macbook is the lesser of two evils.

I've been given a Winblows machine in the past. My boss thought he was doing me a favor because it was a powerful machine... Sorry... all I need is ssh...

> My boss thought he was doing me a favor because it was a powerful machine

From folding@home to mining@work

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by dtj1123 »

seniorThrowaway wrote: post #591
godelski wrote: post #568

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I choose a Macbook because it's my terminal. I'm given the choice "Macbook" or "Windows laptop". I'm forced to use Microsoft products and they're actively hostile to Linux. My laptop is really just a glorified ssh machine, with a web browser, and corporate shovelware. Life is so much better in the terminal. Home is 192.168.1.0/24 and 100.64.0.0/10, it doesn't matter what screen I'm using. Home is where the ssh connec…

>I'm forced to use Microsoft products and they're actively hostile to Linux How so? Powershell has openSSH built in now, and WSL2 basically works minus some annoying behavior and caveats. I have a Windows 11 laptop and I use it like you are saying as an ssh machine and web browser without much issue.

I think they mean that Office products and the like aren't available on a Linux OS

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by DANmode »

rjbwork wrote: post #398
sho_hn wrote: post #396

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> so many developers and other tech nerds - the type who post on HN The average developer stopped being a "tech nerd" around 2010 or so. I think older developers sometimes don't understand how the ranks have swollen and how many, many more people are in software now that don't have the "I was a nerdy kid in the 90s, loved computers and chose the career" upbringing. The average developer now has a MacBook, went to a b…

It's very evident when you work with the young juniors. I've seen people with CS degrees that don't know their keyboard shortcuts.

I’ve got great news for you.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by [deleted] »

mayhemducks wrote: post #458

I tend to be pretty skeptical in general, so grain of salt may be required here, but I sense some irony that the Chinese government has a significant stake in Lenovo. https://easytechsolver.com/who-is-lenovo-owned-by/ https://www.kamilfranek.com/who-owns-lenovo-largest-sharehol... How did we end up touting privacy features while at the same time celebrating the acquisition of this company by a business backed by a st…

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