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Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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Link? Am both curious and skeptical

Not trying to account for the parent's claim, but generally check diskprices.com for the latest deals on Amazon (.com, .co.uk, .de, .es, .it etc)

Newegg regularly offers sales on hard drives, which is when I buy.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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The government official who insisted that commercial AWS/GCP/Azure couldn't possibly be trusted with keeping the information will be keeping their head low for a few days then... "The Interior Ministry explained that while most systems at the Daejeon data center are backed up daily to separate equipment within the same center and to a physically remote backup facility, the G-Drive’s structure did not allow for extern…

Days? That's optimistic. It depends on what govt cloud contained. For example imagine all the car registrations. Or all the payments for the pension fund

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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It still matters who holds your data. Yes they can't read it, but they can hold it ransom. What if the US decides it wants to leverage the backups in tariff negotiations or similar? Not saying this would happen, but as a state level actor, you have to prepare for these eventualities.

That's why you backup to numerous places and in numerous geopolitical blocs. Single points of failure are always a bad idea. You have to create increasingly absurd scenarios for there to be a problem.

or… hear me out…

you obviate the need for complex solutions like that by simply having a second site.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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https://phrack.org/issues/72/7_md#article

Though this is far from the most important points of this article, why do even the article’s authors defend Proton after having their accounts suspended, and after having seemingly a Korean intelligence official warn them that they weren’t secure? Even if they’re perfectly secure they clearly do not have the moral compass people believe they have.

What other service would you use?

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Can you provide an example of a commonly used cryptography system that is known to be vulnerable to nation state cracking? As for backdoors, they may exist if you rely on a third party but it's pretty hard to backdoor the relatively simple algorithms used in cryptography

> Can you provide an example of a commonly used cryptography system that is known to be vulnerable to nation state cracking? DES. Almost all pre-2014 standards-based cryptosystems due to NIST SP 800-90A. Probably all other popular ones too (like, if the NSA doesn't have backdoors to all the popular hardware random number generators then I don't know what they're even doing all day), but we only ever find out about th…

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Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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How’s that? Using encryption, which is known to have backdoors and is vulnerable to nation state cracking?

Can you provide an example of a commonly used cryptography system that is known to be vulnerable to nation state cracking? As for backdoors, they may exist if you rely on a third party but it's pretty hard to backdoor the relatively simple algorithms used in cryptography

Dual_EC_DRBG

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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The issue here is not refusing to use a foreign third party. That makes sense. The issue is mandating the use of remote storage and not backing it up. That’s insane. It’s like the most basic amount of preparation you do. It’s recommended to even the smallest of companies specifically because a fire is a risk. That’s gross mismanagement.

Backups should be far away, too. Apparently some companies lost everything on 9/11 because their backups were in the other tower.

Funnily enough, Germany has laws for where you are allowed to store backups exactly due to these kinda issues. Fire, flood, earthquake, tornadoes, whatever you name, backups need to be stored with appropriate security in mind.

Re: Fire destroys S. Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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this was a plot in a Mr. Robot episode, heh. Life imitating art?

was there a battery hacking episode? I can't remember the show anymore, might be due in for a rewatch it seems.

iirc that’s how they destroyed “steel mountain”.
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