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Re: macOS Tahoe

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post #549

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I feel like every macOS update has been worse than the last, since like 2015-2018 or so. Still, their only real competition is Windows 11, which isn’t well received either.

> I feel like every macOS update has been worse than the last, since like 2015-2018 or so. Tha's been going on for as long as the Mac has been a thing.

Snow Leopard was certainly better than Leopard.

Re: macOS Tahoe

#642
post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

This is quite a departure from the company the pioneered UX obsession and attention to the smallest detail. What's happening here?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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post #457

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I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful. 1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible…

I agree with a lot of what you said but the app launcher was dumb. It was just the iPhone’s Home Screen ported to Mac. Spotlight is way faster than that when you’re at a keyboard. I barely even use the dock, just command space and type in the first few letters of the program I want. Clicking is for people with too much time on their hands.

It is for finding a program or quickly browsing what apps are installed when I don’t know the name. I find it useful in an unfamiliar machine. Yes, like most people, I launch apps primarily with Spotlight.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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I should know better, but I'm still surprised they're shipping this version of Liquid Glass. Performance is stable but there are so many UI bugs and inconsistencies that haven't been fixed from early betas, including low-hanging fruit that a second year design student would notice. I don't mind change or interface elements moving around but keynote-level UI overhauls should be fully implemented at launch, otherwise p…

Heh. I can imagine Cook having his own O'Reilly's "We'll do it live!" moment for Liquid Glass initial backlash.

Fixing this mess will surely take a while but then they use that as PR in future keynotes, saying how hard they were working on it.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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The biggest surprise to me from this whole beta period is that a significant number of people used Launchpad. I have absolutely zero idea why when Spotlight has existed for more than 20 years. Why would you ever want to click and page through a giant iPhone screen on a desktop/laptop computer?

If you have multiple ways to do something on a computer/phone, some relatively large percentage of people will fumble around until they figure out a way to do it - and then do it that way forever. So if someone accidentally triggered Launchpad and realized they could see their apps, they might use that forever (not knowing you can put your Applications folder in your Dock and use it as a start menu lol).

> not knowing you can put your Applications folder in your Dock and use it as a start menu

Doesn't work for me (Sequoia 15.4)

Re: macOS Tahoe

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post #130

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I got my first MacBook at Catalina, and still miss it. For a while, I downgraded my Intel Mac to Catalina again; I love the aesthetic compared to the newer releases, and it’s fast and snappy. But the situation now is: No recent apps work on Catalina since it’s considered obsolete (except open-source apps you compile yourself). But Big Sur and higher are ridiculously slow on Intel hardware, to the point where it’s unu…

I’ve got a MacBook and Mac Mini stuck on Monterey (12), and an iMac stuck on Big Sur (11). I’m pretty much dead in the water when it comes to software compatibility, unless I want to put Linux on them. Even homebrew gives me a warning that they’ve stopped support and to expect everything to break. It’s a sad state of affairs.

OCLP is the solution.

Re: macOS Tahoe

#647
post #62

They went way too far with the corner radii and pill shapes imo, looks like a Fisher Price toy. Some inner buttons retained the old radii and don't match the outer window radii anymore.

Not sure if people remember but Fisher Price was actually used to describe Windows XP's Luna theme.

Re: macOS Tahoe

#648

Apple no longer cares about disabled people. Transparent UI, with controls sitting on top of arbitrary and changing content can NEVER be legible/discernible. Apple knows this, but fashion was more important than function and they decided, "who cares about disabled people, anyway." Microsoft learned this lesson back in the Vista era but Apple's charging ahead with this terrible set of changes that will literally disab…

It's unreadable even for normal people least to say for disabled folks.

Tahoe is Apple's very own "Windows 8".

Re: macOS Tahoe

#649
post #27

How has Apple still not addressed many basic UI issues, such as menu bar icons disappearing behind the notch with no way to see them?

BetterDisplay has an option to "disable" the notch i.e push the menubar down, essentially making the screen the same as before there were a notch. Lose a little bit of real estate, but regain sanity.

There are some dedicated apps for that like Say No To Notch.

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