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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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There is a difference indeed, but that difference was completely ignored when the referendum slogans were shouted precisely to lie to people that if they left the EU they would be in the same position as Switzerland and Norway which is an appealing prospect.

Could you bring a couple of examples of such slogans?

The closest I can come up with:

"Singapore on the Thames"

But I'd assume it's more remainers pointing out that GB wouldn't be like Norway or Switzerland being dismissed as "Project Fear" and rembering the double negative as a positve affirmation by the brexit shysters.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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They saw it by default, which means it's "opt out".

It isn't. It asks you on install if you want to enroll.

Then I got tricked. I wasn't expecting ads in the format they came in.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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When I tried Brave, it blocked website ads but gave me browser ad popups on the top right. No thanks. Stick to Firefox.

I feel like this comment was made in bad faith. Brave Rewards, the thing you're complaining about, is OPT-IN. That means you had to manually enable it in Brave's settings. You're complaining about something you consciously enabled.

It's not in bad faith. I downloaded and set up the browser. I was unhappy with the ads shown to me - I wouldn't have checked a tickbox during set up if I had known what the result would be like.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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The car analogy doesn't quite work that way. Disliking one browser's UI/UX over another is like trying to drive two different cars: one with a touch screen console and another one with an analog console. There are genuine reasons to want one over the other and it will color how you use it day to day.

Sure, but at the most, having to put up with a touch screen is a minor annoyance, and for the most part, you really don't need the functionality that's gated behind those controls. It's a little annoying, yes.

You might consider it minor whereas others will base a car purchase around it. Different strokes for different folks.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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> Spend enough marketing money and say the right magic words and you can easily get people to vote against their own interests. again, total rubbish the working class mostly voted against mass low-skilled immigration from the EU it was very much in their interests to cut off this stream of competition, and a few years later... https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-sees-fastest-wage-rises-... to me it seems like they kn…

> https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-sees-fastest-wage-rises-... Hmm, the article is from February 2022, aka right when we had "peak economy" just before the wordlwide shit hit the fan and everything tanked again, so I'm curious how much of that wage grows was just due to the Covid money printing boom that drove up demand in all sectors, coupled with reduced immigration due to Covid travel restrictions, is the true…

> Hmm, the article is from February 2022, aka right when we had "peak economy" just before the wordlwide shit hit the fan and everything tanked again, so I'm curious how much of that wage grows was just due to the Covid money printing boom that drove up demand in **all sectors**

you answered your own question here

> Except now they have even more competition from outside the EU, with the UK reaching migration records as of recently. And non-EU cheap labor tends to be even cheaper compared to cheap EU labor.

there's a minimum salary requirement

previously this didn't apply to labour from the EU, now it does

so they've all but completely shut out low wage competition from the EU

sounds like they got exactly what they wanted

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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What about them? Do they see the federal government of the United States also as an anti-democratic bureaucracy? Do they see their own government as anti-democratic? And if not why do they see the existing EU as different? Do they understand how EU representatives are chosen? Do they follow EU parliamentary proceedings and do they understand how EU law interacts with local law? All of those are important questions an…

What does the US government have to do with anything :/ I am a pro EU person but I feel you are being quite dismissive of an important issue. Namely that understanding the EU governing structure is very impenetrable to a great number of people, much more so than their national government. The foundation of democracy is that citizens distribute power. How does democracy work if citizens have very little idea about how…

> How does democracy work if citizens have very little idea about how that works in the EU?

Democracy doesn't work if the citizens do not care about the very entities that administer their lives on their behalf. The EU isn't impenetrable, or at least no more impenetrable than the national and local governments, but most people just do not care enough to learn how it works.

Admittedly, that apathy has been reinforced by many national politicians who wanted the EU to remain abstract and obscure in order to better use it as scapegoat for their own failures.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Most people don't need features like WebUSB support. But I do believe people want uBlock to intercept http requests before rendering the web page. And from my understanding this has always been supported in Firefox, but never in Chrome. I have used Firefox forever, I never switched to Chrome as it knew it never was fully open-source. The point of open source is that you're able to build the thing from sources with th…

> uBlock to intercept http requests before rendering the web page. And from my understanding this has always been supported in Firefox, but never in Chrome. The webRequest API does allow to intercept and cancel HTTP requests, it has been part of Chrome extensions API since 2011.

Yeah,I were wrong, however uBlock do work better on Firefox. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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All Chromium-based browsers have a feature that I can't get through my day without. I can write click on any website and say " translate this page into English ". I use this feature around 20 times a day, sometimes more. It's painstaking to do this in Firefox, even with extensions. Once every year or two I try switching to Firefox, then I remember this is the reason why I don't use it and I go back to Chrome. The day…

ask and you shall receive (as of firefox 118) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/website-translation if you need a language they haven't developed a production model for yet, you can install the beta version of the add-on, which supports more languages https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-translations-ad...

… and it’s done locally, unlike the chrome version which uses googles servers.

Some of us handle sensitive content that must not be uploaded to Google.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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> https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-sees-fastest-wage-rises-... Hmm, the article is from February 2022, aka right when we had "peak economy" just before the wordlwide shit hit the fan and everything tanked again, so I'm curious how much of that wage grows was just due to the Covid money printing boom that drove up demand in all sectors, coupled with reduced immigration due to Covid travel restrictions, is the true…

> Hmm, the article is from February 2022, aka right when we had "peak economy" just before the wordlwide shit hit the fan and everything tanked again, so I'm curious how much of that wage grows was just due to the Covid money printing boom that drove up demand in ** all sectors** you answered your own question here > Except now they have even more competition from outside the EU, with the UK reaching migration record…

>there's a minimum salary requirement; previously this didn't apply to labour from the EU, now it does

Excuse me but how is this the EU's fault and not the UK's own fault for not enforcing some sort of minimum wages before?

Where I live now in Austria, there are legally require minimal salary bands negotiated yearly by unions for every profession, so no matter where you come from for work, an employer here is mandated to pay you at least that legal mandated salary regardless if you are Austrian, EU or non-EU, just so it's much more difficult for an employer to wage-dump by using desperate migrants.

So, what stopped the UK from enforcing minimum salary bands on all workers instead of going through the extreme self flagelatory route of leaving the EU and loosing out on the EU membership benefits instead? You might say that would have been difficult and complex to implement, but so was Brexit and that came with pain on the side.

To me, most of the issues the UK complained it was suffering because of the EU, like this one and others, were all self inflicted through poor internal policies, as other wealthy nations in the EU did have proper measures in place to not have the issues the UK had, so blaming the EU was UK's lazy way of pointing fingers for it's own pollical incompetence.

>sounds like they got exactly what they wanted

For now maybe, but long term that could be being penny wise but pound foolish. Investors invested a lot in the UK post 2014 because being part of the EU was a big selling point. Who knows how it will play out now that the UK is isolated and with open borders.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Most non-technical users don't give a crap about how fast or slow their browser was: if they did, they would've switched from IE to Firefox the first go 'round. To downplay the fact that google advertised Chrome on google.com is to rewrite history, in my opinion.

It’s not rewriting history. Firefox really was a slow browser in that time, especially with lots of tabs open. It was only with the Quantum (?) engine that FF became a lot faster. Webpages loading that bit snappier really was a big deal back then, probably for a lot of developers especially. Google was still riding on the “Do No Evil” vibes till about 2012-2014 I would wager.

> It’s not rewriting history. Firefox really was a slow browser in that time,

It will be interesting to see what happens next year in that case, because FF+UBO will be much faster than Chrome with a nobbled ad blocker. If your right and speed is what everyone cares about there should be a mass migration back to Firefox.

But I doubt it, because we have already have a similar experiment. FF+UBO on Android is blazing fast compared to Chrome on Android. Chrome not supporting extensions on Android means the situation is nothing like desktop where Chrome and Firefox are roughly comparable (and always have been). On an ad laden site FF+UBO is going to load a page several times faster. More to the point to me, ads on desktop are often "out of the way" of the main content, but on mobile that consume roughly 1/3 of an already small screen. Like the ancestor poster, I'm stunned that nobody uses Firefox mobile (I'm defining 0.49% market share as nobody). Performance wise the difference is enormous - yet clearly no one cares.

Which also means, you and I and other nerds notwithstanding, it likely no one cared about Firefox's performance versus Chrome when they switched on the desktop. Marketing, bundling, breaking of Firefox on Google's home sites look to fit the facts much better.

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