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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I'd love a small Android phone, with one caveat: A built-in stylus. I'm stuck with the huge Samsung Note series, or the Samsung S22 which is no smaller.

I've used external stylii and my fingers too, but absolutely nothing comes close to the experience of just sliding out the stylus which is always there and using it.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

> a phone the size of the Nexus 5X or preferably smaller

...so, a current flagship? Samsung's Galaxy S22 is smaller than both the Moto X4 and Nexus 5X.

Size comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Nexus-5X,Motor...

In general, phone sizes have stayed roughly constant since the Nexus 5X, though the displays are getting bigger as the bezels get smaller.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

Among smartphone customers, what do you think the numbers are for customers who prefer a big phone vs a little phone? 99/1? 90/10? 80/20? I don’t know this myself. But I figure that if no one is stepping into this market, it’s probably pretty damn small.

I'm not sure why you're asking me, but the OP's site says that 5% of iPhone orders (10 million phones a year) are the mini. That's quite a large market in absolute terms.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

Among smartphone customers, what do you think the numbers are for customers who prefer a big phone vs a little phone? 99/1? 90/10? 80/20? I don’t know this myself. But I figure that if no one is stepping into this market, it’s probably pretty damn small.

See post above re: manufacturers.

I think this is at least partially a feedback loop issue. There aren't manufacturers even making small screens, and the time/cost of doing that isn't seen as worth investing in... because... look at what's selling - larger screens! - which are the only thing we're selling because... look at what's selling!

A small niche player that wants to try a different form factor/size isn't practically able to enter the market with anything but commodity screens.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Weird, all the europeans who visit me in the US talk so much about how great it is to have this much space.

It's nice to have that space for your house, but on the other hand your kids can't go to school by themselves, and neither can you jump on your bike for some shopping and be back in ten minutes.

Bigger houses and more (sometimes mandatory) parking also means everything is further apart and making cars more needed even when going between stores.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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post #270

Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…

> people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly I'll be blunt: no I won't. I reluctantly bought the phone I still use (a moto X4) back in 2019, at which point it was already getting old. It was one of the smaller Android phones available at the time; I measured it diagonally corner to corner (including bezel) at 159 mm (6.26 inches). The screen size is 130 mm (5.2 in) according to Wikipedia. Thi…

> > people who need phones will still buy something even if reluctantly

> I'll be blunt: no I won't.

Agreed. I used my 2005 Motorola Razr until 2020 because I have zero interest in an inconveniently large phone. When the Palm Phone came out I got it as a perfectly-sized replacement.

I won't ever go to a larger phone because if it doesn't fit my pocket, what's the point? Might as well not have one.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Smaller screened smartphones aren't a new market that needs to be defined though. Most people know what they are by virtue of having lived through the era that they were the only choice. And as OP pointed out, Apple makes a smaller screened smartphone, so they exist. In some comment on this post someone said that it accounts for 3% of Apple's phone sales. How big is the group of people that want a smaller smart phone…

Apple's limited success is not only a factor of the screen size but also market positioning. The mini is inferior in some specs to other iPhones but at the same time really high end as far as mobiles in general go. That makes it a niche product even if screen size was not a factor at all. It targets people that have plenty of cash for a flagship but are willing to forego the top tier specs for a smaller size. Apple p…

The mini is inferior in some specs to other iPhones

I’m typing this on my iPhone 13 mini; saying it’s inferior to the rest of the iPhone 13 is an overstatement.

All of the core features are the same as they rest of the line.

Ironically it’s the largest iPhone I’ve owned, having upgraded from an iPhone 7 and a 6s before that.

There probably won’t be iPhone 14 mini, so I’m glad I was able to get this form factor before I had no choice.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Thank you for working on this! I want to be honest, though, and say I think you're missing what the majority of users on this forum want in a small phone. > Sub 6" display, matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini No, bad. What most of us want are the particular set of trade-offs made by phones around 2015. Design wise, that means that you've got to have another hole in the bezel, because there's going to be an ear…

No bad. I don't want those iritating headphone wires. Also a phone that doesn't mind being dropped in water, so no headphone jack please. Notch is not really an issue, front facing camera is useful for video-calls. And i don't have a camera bump, that's solved by the case. Also, no idea what i'd do with memory cards, there's plenty memory in the my phone. The iphone 13 mini works well for me. No idea if this represen…

I am typing this from a waterproof phone with a USB C port and headphone jack. Yes, I have put it underwater. There were plenty of waterproof phones with headphone jacks before flagships dropped the port.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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As an iPhone user, I've wanted to use an iPhone Mini ever since they came out. It was hard to compromise on the camera, coming from a Pro device, but I finally made the switch when the iPhone 13 Mini debuted. Within 24 hours however, I was back at the Apple Store returning it. What was the issue? Nothing wrong with the device at all - it was everything I hoped it would be! Unfortunately, the issue was with the apps i…

I don't recall having UI trouble with a single app since getting a 13 Mini some months ago, nor have I heard such from my spouse. Would you have any examples?

But for me and my house, pry that Mini from our cold, dead hands.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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It's this or a Youtube clip that's maybe monetized by Disney at best... https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Homer The Homer was a car that Home Simpson built to exactly what they wanted without any tradeoffs for off the shelf components, trends, or sensibility of what currently was common. It's also somewhat design by committee, with features like a more luxurious bubble for the adults, and a micro-bubble for the ki…

I also suspect this fictional car might have been an ingredient in the market shifting from minivans to SUVs The simpsons also did the canyonero: https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA

Didn't Homer buy the women's model? Was it the F-series?
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